Blogmusik.net is a site that lets users search for songs and play them (streaming) immediately via a Flash player that looks like an iPod. Use does not require registration. However, if you create an account you can also save songs and create playlists. The library is quite extensive - I was listening to Eminem, R.E.M., Metallica and Frank Sinatra earlier this evening and it seemed to have just about everything I was searching for.
I have the feeling, based on the fact that there is absolutely no information about any licensing deal or even basic company information, that this is an unauthorized use of copyrighted material. I suspect that the library is simply a very large music collection sitting on a server with a nice looking Flash UI tacked on. See the comments below for additional information. It certainly is fun, but I can’t imagine it will be making the RIAA and its worldwide counterparts very happy. Enjoy it while it lasts.
The service has an associated blog here, and Myspace page here. Thank you Orli for emailing us about this.
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netking, I’m aware of the hack. I read most of the comments about radio.blog.club over the internet.
This hack is useless, why did you loose your time to download lossey files (64kb/s) when you can download CD quality from P2P or from Itunes. Downloading poor quality music is for the ones who don’t like music.
About Blogmusik.net, they stole the radio.blog.club database and ideas to create a flash frontend. They don’t deserve to be linked by Techcrunch.
I think this one has to stay. Is simple and do what it suppose to do. Makes things simple and life goes on…
Why the bleep doesn’t RIIAA provide such a thing legally for a monthly fee? I would gladly pay for it.
In fact, I think Yahoo Music is a similar, legal service.
I didn’t loose my time to download music, just to show how easy it is to reverse a flash app…
Jonathan at Faces: I would like to know how you guys pay royalties, and to whom - and also, I would think that music that is being used in this, surely would be subject to an opt-in by the label, i.e. this kind of use is not compulsory, imho. Do you have agreements with all the labels whose music you are allowing to be streamed on demand, and non-DMCA compliant (imho). Cheers, Gerd
ok, this is my 3rd post, so I thought it’s about time that I extend an invitation to Sonific’s private beta invite, for all you TechCrunch readers and commentors: all - if you want to try Sonific’s ‘music for your digital life’, you are hereby invited. Just go to http://www.sonific.com, click on ‘request invite’, add comment / keyword ‘techcrunch’ and we will mail you an invitation right away.
@Gard: Not really sure what you service offers apart from a Flash App that users can integrate into their browser to play music?
Why would I remove my “myspace” or “tagworld” player and implement your application when they already have millions of songs I can implement?
There are already a lot of sites that are out there doing what you are doing? What seperates your from them? On the face of it - aparently nothing except that you are offering “independent music”?
Re your ‘Jonathan at Faces’ comment. As if they are going to tell you how there service works when you are competition. For all your know, they are teamed with the backend of apple and have full music rights to play songs?
Either way - your service - on its face, I cant see the value?
Obviously, the free advertising on techcrunch is also something that others are looking at? Either way - please let us know how your service differs?
Tcruncher: Yes, you can already implement millions of songs using various widgets etc, but apart from most of them being very tedious to use -as far as I can tell - none of them have bothered to license all the rights they need. This is a subject, btw, that I have looked at for years, and so far, the financial conditions for such a on-demand, interactive, all-songs license would be disastrous (thanks to the record industry that is still stuck in the 70s), no doubt - that’s what they don’t have it. This means that eventually (see Napster 1.0) these kinds of offers will be squashed as unauthorized use, and as inducing copyright infringement - just wait for them to show up on the radar screen; whether we like it or not.
The alternative is to build a service that IS licensed, where permission is give in return for the exposure. That is what Sonific does, and it will go way beyond what you see in our current application; just can’t talk about it quite yet… but be sure to check out my latest posts at http://www.sonificblog.com for somee other details. In my view - and this is real important - only services that add value to the entire ecosystem (i.e. the user, the content provider, the aggregator) will prevail here, and clearly apps like radioblogclub etc only produce some value for themselves (but even that I don’t quite see - what’s in it for them?) without giving anything back to the creators, imho. Of course, then again, I would agree 100% that most of the (major) record labels are once again sitting on their butts while this is happening, and do nothing to take advantage of it - but that’s another story altogether.
As to your comment on faces: music licensing is a difficult turf so I guess I can’t blame you for coming up with this theory but I would dare say that it is extremely unlikely that such a deal is anywhere close to reality. I don’t know what loophole they are using but I can’t imagine that it will hold up — that’s just my take. I may be wrong - that’s why I ask. See what they say.
As to what value we provide: I could go on for a long time, but I will let one of the artists on our service do the talking: http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/7978/
And as to free advertising on techcrunch: whatever you make of it — but I am just looking for a conversation on these issues, and some feedback on what we do. Is that ok?
Greg, I heard that you read french, so you can read my comment about this at Techcrunch France :
http://fr.techcrunch.com/2006/.....mment-8642
Can anyone give an example of a case in the US where a website got in trouble (ie sued, jailed, punished) for simply linking to an unauthorized audio file?
Gerd, you seem to think that it is only a matter of time, but what about Webjay? That was obviously high profile enough to get a bit of press and yet the RIAA hasn’t done anything about it. Are you saying that this part of the DMCA won’t hold up in court? I have heard people bat around the terms “secondary infringement” and “inducing copyright infirngement”, but I have yet to see an instance where somebody actually gets in trouble for it.
(Article on the Webjay/Billboard article that started people talking about this: http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=563022006)
I like it.
I just tried to log in to http://www.blogmusik.net a couple of times. It fails. Reason here by the FIREFOX browser is” it taking too long to response “. Is the site already down?
Anyway, I have to agree with music lovers. U cannot shut down a service that search for music online. If u really have to do that, then u need to get the google down its knees…
Internet is making a lot of money for the lawyers… not becuz of start up, not becuz of hacking and so on. CUZ OF PROPERTY TRESPASSER….any1 carries a gun in the net?
Even his blog has a database error : “error establishing a database connection” ?
BlogMusik is a big shit !!!
There is my music on it, whereas I put a radioblog on my blog… Is BlogMusik hacked Radioblog ?? Fuck off, I’m looking for a htaccess…
Kgh: thanks for bringing this up (above re. webjay etc). Imho (and I am, thankfully, not a lawyer;) linking to a ‘unlicensed’ content file that sits somewhere and can be accessed for whatever reason is one thing (and probably reasonably legal at least in most countries), it is another thing to allow a user to UPLOAD and make such a file available for whatever use (full-length streaming as an example), without being licensed to do so. Cheers!
Gerd- Agreed. I think it is interesting how there seems to be a witch hunt mentality among people everytime a new mp3 site pops up. I do think at some point the RIAA will start to complain about sites like these, though they seem to be happy with the DMCA in general.
PS- Not sure if you are aware of IODA (http://www.iodalliance.com/); they can probably provide you with a great deal of material for your site/offering through their Promonet program (http://promonet.iodalliance.com/login.php).
PSS- Great logo!
This has all been great. You guys have mentioned ten or so similar websites all doing a similar job to blogmusik. That gives me a much greater chance of finding music i like online. I would just like to mention a handfull of words to the idiots ranting on about “oh, its illegal. oh, you are such bad people”. Cut the crap!! Youtube???
$1.6 billion ??????
Youtube?????
keep it real people.
Thanks for the links!
doesnt any one know the legal time length (15 sec, 30 sec, 50 sec) allowed to streaming online music without any form of license?
Does anybody care?
I’ve been using the site for a few months - and have been listening up until this past weekend - right now either the servers are overloaded - or
it’s gone.. (sad to say)
archive.org - for interface perhaps…
hopefully, it’s not gone for good - it was a nice mix of tech/usability or non-transportable - music.
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