Comments on: Microsoft Cries Foul At Stolen Interface http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:55:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: 风暴—互联网观察 » 微软指责新浪抄袭 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-2408707 风暴—互联网观察 » 微软指责新浪抄袭 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:48:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-2408707 [...] 8月31日，微软Live Expo开发团队的Garry Wiseman发了个帖子，明确指责新浪招贴栏抄了Live Expo上一版本的设计和图案。此事经TechCrunch报道后，被迅速放大。 [...] [...] 8月31日，微软Live Expo开发团队的Garry Wiseman发了个帖子，明确指责新浪招贴栏抄了Live Expo上一版本的设计和图案。此事经TechCrunch报道后，被迅速放大。 [...]

]]> By: grazitaly http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-1121586 grazitaly Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:37:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-1121586 Yes jdragon, good artists copy.. Yes jdragon, good artists copy..

]]> By: jdragon http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-677098 jdragon Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:30:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-677098 good artists copy...GREAT ARTISTS STEAL... good artists copy…GREAT ARTISTS STEAL…

]]> By: LameZone » And Microsoft Gets a Taste. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-295454 LameZone » And Microsoft Gets a Taste. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:01:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-295454 [...] Today on Digg, I read about this article. It seems Microsoft, ironic as this seems, is complaining that the Chinese portal, Sina lifted the design from part of Microsoft’s Windows Live. [...] [...] Today on Digg, I read about this article. It seems Microsoft, ironic as this seems, is complaining that the Chinese portal, Sina lifted the design from part of Microsoft’s Windows Live. [...]

]]> By: Rex Chung - Pioneering the web » Hong Kong movie remade in Hollywood. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-246993 Rex Chung - Pioneering the web » Hong Kong movie remade in Hollywood. Sat, 07 Oct 2006 06:39:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-246993 [...] China has not been a great example of innovation or a leader in creativity. The recent blog post from a Microsoft employee claiming a Chinese site ‘stealing‘ their design has caused quite a stirr in the blogosphere. The blog post has subsequently changed title to a softer tone and actually got removed now. There are some great Hong Kong born web 2.0 companies like anobii, bullpoo, editgrid as reported by Angus Lau. [...] [...] China has not been a great example of innovation or a leader in creativity. The recent blog post from a Microsoft employee claiming a Chinese site ‘stealing‘ their design has caused quite a stirr in the blogosphere. The blog post has subsequently changed title to a softer tone and actually got removed now. There are some great Hong Kong born web 2.0 companies like anobii, bullpoo, editgrid as reported by Angus Lau. [...]

]]> By: Mike from Philly http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-189368 Mike from Philly Wed, 13 Sep 2006 01:33:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-189368 from #77 "And I’ll finish by telling you that it’s a little old-fashion to say crap abt Microsoft. Maybe it’s time to grow up. For instance the latest news is that Bill Gates donated over USD 500,000,000 to help people and kids"...Until Microsoft(R) supports a non-browser specific Internet, I won't be impressed with them. It is well-known that many companies/people believe Microsoft(R) wants total control of the Internet in addition to the "pc" market that it does not even have to really market to consumers...consumers are just given the "latest" by Microsoft(R) and are made to feel compelled that they have to "upgrade". I wish Microsoft(R) would just focus on doing something right like improving it's operating systems and/or Office suite...come on, windows xp keeps telling me that I have "unused icons on your desktop"...this kind of useless and annoying thing is just one example that needs to be changed. Does Microsoft(R) really belong in the video game business??? I really have to question that...Another example, Microsoft(R) wants to own the search engine department and crush google....what is wrong with having something called "CHOICE"...why is Microsoft(R) anti-choice...I would love to ask Gates and Ballmer this question, among others... from #77 “And I’ll finish by telling you that it’s a little old-fashion to say crap abt Microsoft. Maybe it’s time to grow up. For instance the latest news is that Bill Gates donated over USD 500,000,000 to help people and kids”…Until Microsoft(R) supports a non-browser specific Internet, I won’t be impressed with them. It is well-known that many companies/people believe Microsoft(R) wants total control of the Internet in addition to the “pc” market that it does not even have to really market to consumers…consumers are just given the “latest” by Microsoft(R) and are made to feel compelled that they have to “upgrade”. I wish Microsoft(R) would just focus on doing something right like improving it’s operating systems and/or Office suite…come on, windows xp keeps telling me that I have “unused icons on your desktop”…this kind of useless and annoying thing is just one example that needs to be changed. Does Microsoft(R) really belong in the video game business??? I really have to question that…Another example, Microsoft(R) wants to own the search engine department and crush google….what is wrong with having something called “CHOICE”…why is Microsoft(R) anti-choice…I would love to ask Gates and Ballmer this question, among others…

]]> By: Look at www.gooaa.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-189179 Look at www.gooaa.com Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:09:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-189179 Take a look at http://www.gooaa.com, a clear Google logo rip-off by a Chinese company. Take a look at http://www.gooaa.com, a clear Google logo rip-off by a Chinese company.

]]> By: Philippe http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-181931 Philippe Sun, 10 Sep 2006 01:28:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-181931 Chen, Before you talk and start insulting workers and creators (no matter they work for Microsoft or other american companies), you should know what you're talking abt. Try to find the original Live Expo Interface and you'll see it's 100% similar from the first pixel to the last. Now, just imagine what chinese people will think if ever Garry wants to bring Live Expo on the chinese market... They'll all consider that Expo copied Sina ! If you can't understand that design is important than I'm sorry but you know nothing abt business. And I'll finish by telling you that it's a little old-fashion to say crap abt Microsoft. Maybe it's time to grow up. For instance the latest news is that Bill Gates donated over USD 500,000,000 to help people and kids. Greetings to you and keep up the great work Garry, Expo is really a great feature. I love it. Chen,

Before you talk and start insulting workers and creators (no matter they work for Microsoft or other american companies), you should know what you’re talking abt.

Try to find the original Live Expo Interface and you’ll see it’s 100% similar from the first pixel to the last.

Now, just imagine what chinese people will think if ever Garry wants to bring Live Expo on the chinese market… They’ll all consider that Expo copied Sina !

If you can’t understand that design is important than I’m sorry but you know nothing abt business.

And I’ll finish by telling you that it’s a little old-fashion to say crap abt Microsoft. Maybe it’s time to grow up. For instance the latest news is that Bill Gates donated over USD 500,000,000 to help people and kids.

Greetings to you and keep up the great work Garry, Expo is really a great feature. I love it.

]]> By: Alan http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-176524 Alan Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:06:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-176524 the problem with Microsoft is that they need more design and creative interfaces in order to compete. Look at synapselife.com that site will be huge. the problem with Microsoft is that they need more design and creative interfaces in order to compete. Look at synapselife.com that site will be huge.

]]> By: IP Dragon http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-176241 IP Dragon Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:00:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-176241 <strong>Did Sina.com Infringe Microsoft's Copyright?...</strong> Are the sites similar enough that one can speak of copyright infringement? Tech Crunch does not think so and has a good post about the affaire including two screen snapshots, so you could arrive at your own objective judgement, here.... Did Sina.com Infringe Microsoft’s Copyright?…

Are the sites similar enough that one can speak of copyright infringement? Tech Crunch does not think so and has a good post about the affaire including two screen snapshots, so you could arrive at your own objective judgement, here….

]]> By: babablues http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-173560 babablues Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:53:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-173560 what wags the world is. what wags the world is.

]]> By: Cyril http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-170627 Cyril Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:55:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-170627 There are 2 things SINA has been doing so far: to copy and ripp-off people ! I have been working in China on the online field for more than 5 years, and they battle along with Yahoo! China for being the worse business partner ever. Why? They are affiliating the account manager from advertising companies to litterally rip-off the buyers. How? The media account manager can enjoy some good money if he "sales" SINA spaces instead of other websites (Netease, Yahoo, Sohua...whatever). Oh yeah, they would eventually threaten you of writing an editorial to destroy your brand if you don't plan to spend any money on their website !! Actually they even did it on purpose, and my company was not the only one to suffer this type of bad experience... DO NOT use their services, their audience target is a joke for most products and they eventually will give you fake traffic figures as they don't even know how to track visitors (I was managing an entire channel on Sina 2 years ago). Duo xie nimen... There are 2 things SINA has been doing so far: to copy and ripp-off people !

I have been working in China on the online field for more than 5 years, and they battle along with Yahoo! China for being the worse business partner ever.

Why? They are affiliating the account manager from advertising companies to litterally rip-off the buyers.

How? The media account manager can enjoy some good money if he “sales” SINA spaces instead of other websites (Netease, Yahoo, Sohua…whatever).

Oh yeah, they would eventually threaten you of writing an editorial to destroy your brand if you don’t plan to spend any money on their website !!

Actually they even did it on purpose, and my company was not the only one to suffer this type of bad experience…

DO NOT use their services, their audience target is a joke for most products and they eventually will give you fake traffic figures as they don’t even know how to track visitors (I was managing an entire channel on Sina 2 years ago).

Duo xie nimen…

]]> By: todd http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-170623 todd Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:54:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-170623 I'm not surprised, several months ago, a Chinese computer "scientist" Chen Jin "invented" China’s first homegrown computer chip dubbed "Han Xin". Turned out, he simply scratched away the logo from a Motorola chip with sandpaper and replaced it with his own! This communist regime needs lies to keep! Link: http://www.newscloud.com/read/61570 I’m not surprised, several months ago, a Chinese computer “scientist” Chen Jin “invented” China’s first homegrown computer chip dubbed “Han Xin”. Turned out, he simply scratched away the logo from a Motorola chip with sandpaper and replaced it with his own! This communist regime needs lies to keep!

Link: http://www.newscloud.com/read/61570

]]> By: cenourinha http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-170011 cenourinha Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:16:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-170011 Microsoft - Introducting Another Copy... Microsoft - Introducting Another Copy…

]]> By: 美人她爹 » Blog translation, KESO:M$ Accuses Sina for Copying http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169961 美人她爹 » Blog translation, KESO:M$ Accuses Sina for Copying Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:21:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169961 [...] On August 31st, Garry Wiseman, member of Microsoft Live Expo group, in his post explicitly accusing Sina Post copied the design and graphics of Live Expo’s previous version. The news started to explode after being listed in TechCrunch. [...] [...] On August 31st, Garry Wiseman, member of Microsoft Live Expo group, in his post explicitly accusing Sina Post copied the design and graphics of Live Expo’s previous version. The news started to explode after being listed in TechCrunch. [...]

]]> By: BrianY http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169785 BrianY Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:28:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169785 To Garry Wiseman: Yes, cross-border IP violation is a serious topic and your intent to raise Sina's case is well acceptable. But please consider the side effection: I believe you have noticed that some people start attacking China's position on IP protection and some of those assaults are directly aiming at China and Chinese. Of course I believe it's not your intent(right?) and those reactions are not within your control, but posting a blog in such a way like "us vs. them", "US vs. China" did imply some negative thoughts. If you care your icon thing so much, have you contacted Sina on this and informed your PR\Legal guys in subsidiary of Microsoft China to investigate this case(I'm sure MS hired some PR\Legal guys in China, cuz MS is not a start-up that cannot afford that, is it?) crying in your product's blog is not the best way to solve this IP case and your bemusement. You need some PR\legal lessons, Garry. When you talk in your product's blog, you're represting your employer. Consider it. To Garry Wiseman:

Yes, cross-border IP violation is a serious topic and your intent to raise Sina’s case is well acceptable. But please consider the side effection:

I believe you have noticed that some people start attacking China’s position on IP protection and some of those assaults are directly aiming at China and Chinese. Of course I believe it’s not your intent(right?) and those reactions are not within your control, but posting a blog in such a way like “us vs. them”, “US vs. China” did imply some negative thoughts. If you care your icon thing so much, have you contacted Sina on this and informed your PR\Legal guys in subsidiary of Microsoft China to investigate this case(I’m sure MS hired some PR\Legal guys in China, cuz MS is not a start-up that cannot afford that, is it?)

crying in your product’s blog is not the best way to solve this IP case and your bemusement. You need some PR\legal lessons, Garry. When you talk in your product’s blog, you’re represting your employer. Consider it.

]]> By: Ken http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169767 Ken Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:15:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169767 Microsoft stole the Mac interface and don't forget what Bill stole over 20 years ago from Apple... So Microsoft are just cry baby's... Microsoft stole the Mac interface and don’t forget what Bill stole over 20 years ago from Apple…

So Microsoft are just cry baby’s…

]]> By: James http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169536 James Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:51:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-169536 Um, they're Chinese, that's what the Chinese do. Um, they’re Chinese, that’s what the Chinese do.

]]> By: DC http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-168682 DC Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:24:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-168682 It's intelligibly, china is a police state, the totalitarian system cant produce creativity. What they can do is copy, copy, copy... It’s intelligibly, china is a police state, the totalitarian system cant produce creativity. What they can do is copy, copy, copy…

]]> By: Microsoft Cries Foul At Stolen Interface » Dee’s-Planet! Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-168285 Microsoft Cries Foul At Stolen Interface » Dee’s-Planet! Blog Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:32:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-168285 [...] Teamexpo | Techcrunch [...] [...] Teamexpo | Techcrunch [...]

]]> By: Jonty http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-167446 Jonty Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:27:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-167446 Notwithstanding the 'irony' you are talking about, I would like to say that the Chinese have made copying a way of life and have scant respect for Intellectual Property. Notwithstanding the ‘irony’ you are talking about, I would like to say that the Chinese have made copying a way of life and have scant respect for Intellectual Property.

]]> By: Jules http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-167129 Jules Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:57:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-167129 What's the big deal...you should be happy that someone wants to borrow your concept...it means you did something right!...you folks at MS just have to keep innovating to get ahead and stop whining about having your ideas copied. Everyone borrows and expands on each other's ideas these days. What’s the big deal…you should be happy that someone wants to borrow your concept…it means you did something right!…you folks at MS just have to keep innovating to get ahead and stop whining about having your ideas copied. Everyone borrows and expands on each other’s ideas these days.

]]> By: Just another blog… » Karma is real.. and here is a proof http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-166847 Just another blog… » Karma is real.. and here is a proof Sat, 02 Sep 2006 06:28:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-166847 [...] I just saw this on TechCrunch. According to this post, a Microsoft Live Expo project leader posted on his blog claiming that a chinese site steals their design.  You can check the post out and judge for yourself whether the design was stolen or not. Doesn’t that remind you of the case years ago when Microsoft was accused of stealing Apple’s GUI design? [...] [...] I just saw this on TechCrunch. According to this post, a Microsoft Live Expo project leader posted on his blog claiming that a chinese site steals their design.  You can check the post out and judge for yourself whether the design was stolen or not. Doesn’t that remind you of the case years ago when Microsoft was accused of stealing Apple’s GUI design? [...]

]]> By: Arun Vijayan http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-166778 Arun Vijayan Sat, 02 Sep 2006 06:02:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-166778 Its the time to remember the Ubuntu - MSN Spaces issue http://offtopics.in/viewtopic.php?p=667& Its the time to remember the Ubuntu - MSN Spaces issue
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]]> By: Craig NuMark http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-166574 Craig NuMark Sat, 02 Sep 2006 04:48:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/01/microsoft-cries-foul-at-stolen-interface/#comment-166574 window live is copying craigslist in many ways, the event calendar, housing, jobs...shame of MS window live is copying craigslist in many ways, the event calendar, housing, jobs…shame of MS

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