Comments on: Dave Winer Ponders Mobile http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/ Startup and Technology News Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:20:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Just a random blog ! http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-1488194 Just a random blog ! Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:01:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-1488194 [...] the sole purpose of keeping his mind busy. Not all of his projects take off, but they are always interesting and fun to [...] [...] the sole purpose of keeping his mind busy. Not all of his projects take off, but they are always interesting and fun to [...]

]]> By: nonsmokingarea.com » Blog Archive » Bloglines + Skweezer: mobile feed-reader http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-214020 nonsmokingarea.com » Blog Archive » Bloglines + Skweezer: mobile feed-reader Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:24:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-214020 [...] while Dave Winer’s rivers of news deservedly have gathered most interest of the mobile community over the last month (see TechCrunch, OM Daily), online feed-reader Bloglines offers a mobile version of its service since quite a while. the interface is almost as stripped down (and therefor fast) as Dave’s mobile rivers, with the big advantage of not being restricted to several feeds, but rather synching with whatever sources users have syndicated in their Bloglines-account. this basically means that users dont’ have to double-read posts when using desktop- and mobile platforms, which is a great feature. [...] [...] while Dave Winer’s rivers of news deservedly have gathered most interest of the mobile community over the last month (see TechCrunch, OM Daily), online feed-reader Bloglines offers a mobile version of its service since quite a while. the interface is almost as stripped down (and therefor fast) as Dave’s mobile rivers, with the big advantage of not being restricted to several feeds, but rather synching with whatever sources users have syndicated in their Bloglines-account. this basically means that users dont’ have to double-read posts when using desktop- and mobile platforms, which is a great feature. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Newsgator Go! pour mobiles enfin disponible + quelques nouveautés françaises http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-208259 TechCrunch en français » Newsgator Go! pour mobiles enfin disponible + quelques nouveautés françaises Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:58:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-208259 [...] Il existe d’autres options pour lire vos RSS sur la route dont BlogLines Mobile, la solution mobile de FeedBurner, Winksite, River of News de Dave Winer et la suite pour mobile SynaspeLife qui devrait bientôt être lancée. [...] [...] Il existe d’autres options pour lire vos RSS sur la route dont BlogLines Mobile, la solution mobile de FeedBurner, Winksite, River of News de Dave Winer et la suite pour mobile SynaspeLife qui devrait bientôt être lancée. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 明日登場のモバイル新サービス”Newsgator Go!” http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-207870 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 明日登場のモバイル新サービス”Newsgator Go!” Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:58:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-207870 [...] 出先でフィードを読む別のオプションとしては、Bloglines Mobile、 FeedBurnerのモバイル版フィード読み取り、多機能モバイルのWinksite、選んだフィードの読み取り用にDave Winerが開発したmobile River of News、 間もなく発売となるモバイルスイーツSynapseLifeもあるね。 [...] [...] 出先でフィードを読む別のオプションとしては、Bloglines Mobile、 FeedBurnerのモバイル版フィード読み取り、多機能モバイルのWinksite、選んだフィードの読み取り用にDave Winerが開発したmobile River of News、 間もなく発売となるモバイルスイーツSynapseLifeもあるね。 [...]

]]> By: Digg Mobile, Inspired by Dave Winer » JenIT http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-181087 Digg Mobile, Inspired by Dave Winer » JenIT Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:58:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-181087 [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...] [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...]

]]> By: Dave Winer Inspires Digg » JenIT http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-181085 Dave Winer Inspires Digg » JenIT Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:57:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-181085 [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...] [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Dave Winerがインスパイアした、Digg Mobile http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-180006 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Dave Winerがインスパイアした、Digg Mobile Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:09:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-180006 [...] おもしろい(しかもクール)なのは、Diggがページフッタ(欄外)でDave Winerに“当サイトもまた、ニュースの河のアイディアを広めてくれたDave Winerの努力の成果の賜物です!”と謝辞を述べているところ。Daveは常に、よりよいもの、手法を模索している人だ。最近はモバイル専用アプリケーションに目を向けており、これは当ブログでも最近お伝えした。(日本語記事) [...] [...] おもしろい(しかもクール)なのは、Diggがページフッタ(欄外)でDave Winerに“当サイトもまた、ニュースの河のアイディアを広めてくれたDave Winerの努力の成果の賜物です!”と謝辞を述べているところ。Daveは常に、よりよいもの、手法を模索している人だ。最近はモバイル専用アプリケーションに目を向けており、これは当ブログでも最近お伝えした。(日本語記事) [...]

]]> By: accelzone - techie weblog » Digg Mobile, Inspired by Dave Winer http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-179805 accelzone - techie weblog » Digg Mobile, Inspired by Dave Winer Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:18:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-179805 [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...] [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...]

]]> By: accelzone - techie weblog » Dave Winer Inspires Digg http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-179792 accelzone - techie weblog » Dave Winer Inspires Digg Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:03:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-179792 [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...] [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to do things. Recently, he’s turned his attention to mobile applications, which we covered recently. [...]

]]> By: Techcrunch » Blog Archive » Dave Winer Inspires Digg http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-179780 Techcrunch » Blog Archive » Dave Winer Inspires Digg Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:48:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-179780 [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to view mobile applicatioins, which we covered recently. [...] [...] What’s interesting (and cool) is that Digg thanks Dave Winer in the footer of the page, saying “Props to Dave Winer for popularizing the idea of the river of news, again!”. As usual, Dave has been imagining a better way to view mobile applicatioins, which we covered recently. [...]

]]> By: Shlomo Weizmann http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-163251 Shlomo Weizmann Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:45:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-163251 I use Opera Mini, it does a good job. I use Opera Mini, it does a good job.

]]> By: Sally http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-163020 Sally Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:53:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-163020 Its been done before by other companies on a much better scale. I find it amusing how it spreads like fire amongst the blogging set when somebody like Winer creates a simple news reader. Its been done before by other companies on a much better scale.

I find it amusing how it spreads like fire amongst the blogging set when somebody like Winer creates a simple news reader.

]]> By: Shawn McCollum http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162931 Shawn McCollum Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:43:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162931 Normally I try not to plug my site but i've seen other sites plugged and it goes along with the topic so here goes... Try Wampad at http://wampad.com. Great site built for mobile browsers, it's been called a Search Based Mobile Portal. I've had the ability to view rss feeds for a little while now, but recently I've been working to make them easier to bookmark. Try http://wampad.com/rss/techcrunch. I'm still working on navigation and opml support but so far http://wampad.com/rss/[Feedburner Name] works great. You can also go to http://wampad.com and select rss from the drop down. Normally I try not to plug my site but i’ve seen other sites plugged and it goes along with the topic so here goes…

Try Wampad at http://wampad.com. Great site built for mobile browsers, it’s been called a Search Based Mobile Portal. I’ve had the ability to view rss feeds for a little while now, but recently I’ve been working to make them easier to bookmark. Try http://wampad.com/rss/techcrunch. I’m still working on navigation and opml support but so far http://wampad.com/rss/Feedburner Name] works great. You can also go to http://wampad.com and select rss from the drop down.

]]> By: Viewing blogs on mobile devices at Wabi Sabi http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162667 Viewing blogs on mobile devices at Wabi Sabi Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:14:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162667 [...] There has been a bit of talk recently about viewing blogs on mobile devices.  Dave Winer has even built a tool to help out.  Personally I don’t tend to use a mobile device to view anything, the costs are just too prohibitive here in Australia.  However I do think the idea is very cool and when I saw a Alex King’s plugin for WordPress I decided to give it a try. [...] [...] There has been a bit of talk recently about viewing blogs on mobile devices.  Dave Winer has even built a tool to help out.  Personally I don’t tend to use a mobile device to view anything, the costs are just too prohibitive here in Australia.  However I do think the idea is very cool and when I saw a Alex King’s plugin for WordPress I decided to give it a try. [...]

]]> By: Rob Safuto http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162505 Rob Safuto Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:58:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162505 I second the wp-mobile plugin. Any blog running on WordPress can have a mobile version in minutes by uploading and activating this great plugin by Alex King. I second the wp-mobile plugin. Any blog running on WordPress can have a mobile version in minutes by uploading and activating this great plugin by Alex King.

]]> By: Alan Patrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162423 Alan Patrick Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:00:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162423 Its interesting that after all the rah rah on 3G, WAP etc etc, many of the major data applications still seem to be either text based (sms, email) or converting multimedia web content into a more text based service as suggested here (and elsewhere)...the BBC didn't do all this by accident or on a whim. Why? I think that the answer is 2 - fold: Firstly, a mobile is still pretty lousy to use for any protracted form of interaction apart from voice calls (try and read a document on a mobile for an exercise in frustration....), navigation is far harder so content has to be served up in a very easy to use way. Mobile co's don't help by traying to pass everything through their own portals. Secondly in many countries the economics of data download is still unappealing - £1.00 for the song, £ 4.00 for the data used, the sticker shock is all yours. Imagine a world where 15 minutes of Youtube is the cost of a dinner for 2 in a good restaurant. Point I'm making is that all this is a workaround for the intrinsic limitations of the mobile phone model as it is today. (By the way, about 8 years ago I did a piece of work that suggested, by assuming Moore's law etc, that by c 2006 we could have a wireless laptop that was also a phone, music player, movie player about the size of a Nintendo DS for $250...and damn I want one still !) Its interesting that after all the rah rah on 3G, WAP etc etc, many of the major data applications still seem to be either text based (sms, email) or converting multimedia web content into a more text based service as suggested here (and elsewhere)…the BBC didn’t do all this by accident or on a whim. Why?

I think that the answer is 2 - fold:

Firstly, a mobile is still pretty lousy to use for any protracted form of interaction apart from voice calls (try and read a document on a mobile for an exercise in frustration….), navigation is far harder so content has to be served up in a very easy to use way. Mobile co’s don’t help by traying to pass everything through their own portals.

Secondly in many countries the economics of data download is still unappealing - £1.00 for the song, £ 4.00 for the data used, the sticker shock is all yours. Imagine a world where 15 minutes of Youtube is the cost of a dinner for 2 in a good restaurant.

Point I’m making is that all this is a workaround for the intrinsic limitations of the mobile phone model as it is today.

(By the way, about 8 years ago I did a piece of work that suggested, by assuming Moore’s law etc, that by c 2006 we could have a wireless laptop that was also a phone, music player, movie player about the size of a Nintendo DS for $250…and damn I want one still !)

]]> By: Declan http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162418 Declan Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:53:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162418 Surprised nobody mentioned plugins like Alex Kings WP mobile edition. Available http://www.alexking.org/software/wordpress/ for those interested. Surprised nobody mentioned plugins like Alex Kings WP mobile edition. Available http://www.alexking.org/software/wordpress/ for those interested.

]]> By: Dave Winer http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162349 Dave Winer Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:28:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162349 Enrique, those were just demos to help me find out which of the analysts were interested in mobile apps. That's not "Dave's approach." Oy. Enrique, those were just demos to help me find out which of the analysts were interested in mobile apps. That’s not “Dave’s approach.” Oy.

]]> By: C. Enrique Ortiz http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162298 C. Enrique Ortiz Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:41:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162298 The problem w/ dave's approach is that HE decided what to include or not... and that is not good. The right solution will leave that decision to the website publisher. For example, leaving out the site ads mean removing one of the site's potential revuene streams... ceo The problem w/ dave’s approach is that HE decided what to include or not… and that is not good. The right solution will leave that decision to the website publisher. For example, leaving out the site ads mean removing one of the site’s potential revuene streams…

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]]> By: Joining Dots http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162265 Joining Dots Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:45:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162265 I'm surprised we aren't just seeing more like Google's mobile gmail (m.gmail.com), adopt m instead of www for mobile versions of web sites and publish mobile-friendly site designs. For the news stuff, they still aren't as good as offline sync sites like AvantGo from a usability/readability perspective. I’m surprised we aren’t just seeing more like Google’s mobile gmail (m.gmail.com), adopt m instead of www for mobile versions of web sites and publish mobile-friendly site designs. For the news stuff, they still aren’t as good as offline sync sites like AvantGo from a usability/readability perspective.

]]> By: Michael Stajer http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162251 Michael Stajer Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:23:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162251 Use your phone to surf to google.com - they recognize it as a mobile device. Search google from there - you will get the full google result set (not just wap results), but when you click a result, google runs it through a proxy and changes the site on the fly to a mobile friendly version. Any site, any time. Use your phone to surf to google.com - they recognize it as a mobile device. Search google from there - you will get the full google result set (not just wap results), but when you click a result, google runs it through a proxy and changes the site on the fly to a mobile friendly version. Any site, any time.

]]> By: Ryan Stewart - Rich Internet Application Mountaineer » Flash Lite and Monetizing Mobile Content http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162177 Ryan Stewart - Rich Internet Application Mountaineer » Flash Lite and Monetizing Mobile Content Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:25:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162177 [...] Mike Arrington has an interesting post over at TechCrunch which covers Dave Winer’s recent attempts to bring web content to the mobile phones. The juxtaposition of the two viewpoints is telling. Dave’s solution involves stripping things to the bare minimum and giving that to users in a plain, readable way - a noble goal. Because of the load times associated with bringing web content to mobile phones, and the horrendous experience that exists now, this idea could gain a lot of traction. However on the other hand, you have Mike Arrington, a man who lives and dies based on the advertising. Mike’s quote is gold: Check out NYTimes, BBC and TechCrunch in Dave’s new, stripped down format. I’ve been reading TechCrunch this way on my phone for a couple of weeks. Most of the graphics and (sniff) all of the advertising is stripped out, but at least it keeps the reader sane. [...] [...] Mike Arrington has an interesting post over at TechCrunch which covers Dave Winer’s recent attempts to bring web content to the mobile phones. The juxtaposition of the two viewpoints is telling. Dave’s solution involves stripping things to the bare minimum and giving that to users in a plain, readable way - a noble goal. Because of the load times associated with bringing web content to mobile phones, and the horrendous experience that exists now, this idea could gain a lot of traction. However on the other hand, you have Mike Arrington, a man who lives and dies based on the advertising. Mike’s quote is gold: Check out NYTimes, BBC and TechCrunch in Dave’s new, stripped down format. I’ve been reading TechCrunch this way on my phone for a couple of weeks. Most of the graphics and (sniff) all of the advertising is stripped out, but at least it keeps the reader sane. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Dave Winer、モバイルを考える http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162129 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Dave Winer、モバイルを考える Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:42:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162129 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: pwb http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162128 pwb Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162128 I personally think data on mobile may never work but the only chance it's got is if it is completely optimized for slow connections, lousy UIs and tiny screens. Taking existing web pages and re-purposing for mobile is a losing proposition. I personally think data on mobile may never work but the only chance it’s got is if it is completely optimized for slow connections, lousy UIs and tiny screens. Taking existing web pages and re-purposing for mobile is a losing proposition.

]]> By: Joseph Hunkins http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162122 Joseph Hunkins Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:36:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/29/dave-winer-ponders-mobile/#comment-162122 What !? No advertising? This is America for god's sake! What !? No advertising? This is America for god’s sake!

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