August 24, 2006

Let’s Share Some Files - Four Services Compared

Michael Arrington

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File sharing has long been a popular use of the Internet. I remember sitting at my laptop and asking a friend to name a song, and then seeing if I could download it off of Napster and play it before he could find the cd on the shelf, put it into the player and play the song himself. I often won those competitions.

The old Napster is long gone, but was of course replaced with many other P2P networks. Today, a significant portion of Internet traffic is comprised of files being moved over bittorent, a popular and completely decentralized way of sharing files.

Bittorent, though, requires some basic technical knowledge and is neither anonymous nor safe. The RIAA and MPAA routinely monitor these networks and attempt to collect IP addresses of computers they believe are involved in the transfer of copyrighted files. And bittorent is notorious for transferring files that (sometimes) contain viruses, spyware and other malware.

Enter private file sharing networks. WASTE was released in 2003 and allowed people to create private networks among trusted friends. Files could be shared without worrying about malware or prying eyes. All that was needed was trust among the members of a particular network. The downside of WASTE was that setting up and participating in a network was not trivial to do. Private networks did not take off and achieve mass use and adoption.

A new crop of services has popped up recently to make it much easier to share files with a private network of friends and other trusted people. Allpeers, Zapr, Pando and Exaroom are all fairly recent entrants.

AllPeers

We’ve followed Prague/UK based AllPeers from the very beginning, and are very familiar with this product.

Allpeers, which is apparently launching imminently (but is not live as of the time of this post), is a Firefox plugin that uses bittorent technology to complete file transfers. You add friends to your AllPeers network and then send and receive files from them. The interface is intuitive, and there are no restrictions on file sizes or amounts transferred. AllPeers is incredibly easy to use, allows transfers of files and/or folders, and works on any machine that you can run Firefox. We also stressed tested the product by transferring very large files and shutting down Firefox and then the computer itself during tranfer. AllPeers picked up where it left off as soon as Firefox was reopened, which is great.

Like the others, AllPeers is free. But, unlike Pando and Zapr, AllPeers completes file transfers without the need to confirm via email first. However, all sides of the transfer must have AllPeers installed on Firefox.

Zapr

Sydney and Singapore based Zapr , which we profiled here, opened up for public beta testing earlier this week - you can sign up here.

Zapr is a downloadable application that looks and feels a lot like an instant messaging client. You can drag files into Zapr and send them to an email address or Zapr username. The recipient(s) receives an email with a link to the file. Clicking on the link initiates a download of the file through the browser. There are no limits on file size.

Zapr is not using bittorent on the backend and does not upload the file to its servers before transfer. The file is transferred directly from one computer to the other, and requires that the sender be online for the file to transfer properly. This also means that if a user shares a file with 100 people, that will trigger 100 distinct downloads from that user’s computer which will hog bandwidth and very likely crush individual transfers. For that reason, Zapr is not really a private sharing network, but really an easy way to initiate a one-to-one transfer. We also had problems restarting a transfer when it was stopped. Also, anyone who gets access to the link can download the file.

Zapr is built on the .NET platform and therefore is only available for use on Windows machines.

All in all, we like the Zapr user interface but its current limitations make it significantly less useful than AllPeers or Pando. Of note is the fact that, of the four services, Zapr is the only one that doesn’t require recipients to have the Zapr software installed on their computer.

Pando

Pando, based in New York, recently reached 1 million downloads of its software. Pando is a desktop application that runs on Windows or Mac machines. Users drag files into the application and tell it the email address of who to send it to. Multiple recipients are fine, and Pando can transfer folders or files.

Pando has an intelligent, bittorent based back end. When you send a file, the first thing Pando does is upload it to its servers. Recipients receive the file directly from the sender as well as the Pando servers, and if there are multiple recipients then the bittorent efficiency effect really kicks in as all recipients also become senders.

Recipients receive an email and initiate a transfer by opening a small attachment (you must have Pando to download the file).

Pando is an efficient and user friendly service. We’d like to see it initiate transfers without the need to click on an email attachment, and the addition of buddy lists would be a good way to ease the annoyance of re-typing the email address of someone you often share with.

Exaroom

San Francisco based exaroom, which launched in late July 2006, is a Windows only service that requires a download. Once installed, a user can share files within their My Documents folder with other exaroom users. New shared files are viewable through the application interface, and downloads are completed via the browser download manager.

Exaroom is a good way to make your My Documents folder permanently sharable with certain friends, but the lack of features compared to the other services make it a less useful product.

Summary

All four of these services are useful tools for sharing large files with a trusted network.

Each is useful for different goals. However, a popular service that we excluded from this review, yousendit (profiled here), also solves the basic need to transfer a large file to another person or group of people. If you are looking to create a long term sharing network, Allpeers is the way to go. It has platform flexibilty (works on Windows, Linux and Mac), allows creation of buddy lists that allow easy multiple transfers over time, and does not require the use of email to confirm file downloads.

Thanks to Nick Gonzalez for research assistance on this post.

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  1. David

    Surely GTalk is the way to go? Simple and well integrated into IM.

  2. Heinz Grünwald

    One software to add: foldershare - http://www.foldershare.com
    Works fine between mac and windows machines, but since the company was acquired by microsoft late 2005, there are no more updates.

  3. Sharpshoot

    Don’t forget Dropsend based in Bath, UK. And Allpeers is Oxford, UK based not London based but maybe you use London to pinpoint the rough location. Just my 2c.

  4. Michael Arrington

    my mistake on Allpeers…thx.

  5. Padraic Woods

    FastSend from http://www.fileflow.com is also worth trying.

  6. Innovation Zen

    What if in the future the terminals (PCs and others) would become dumb again, meaning all the processing and storage would be carried remotely.

  7. aaron

    @InnovationZen:

    Box.net looks foward to this future :)

  8. Mark

    I don’t understand why you continue to leave DropSend out of this category.

  9. John Beales

    While I rarely send extremely large files I find that IM clients are often sufficient. Now that Windows Live Messenger has shared folders so I can share certain folders with only who I want to it looks great.

    I realize that it doesn’t capture the power of bittorrent but for the casual user I think it’s pretty good. Because of that this could be a hard, if not near impossible market to break into.

  10. Brett

    While these tools are great for sharing, I’ve found even greater value in utilizing them for remote back-up and file access. Locating an server (old desktop) at one of my family member’s homes, I have everyone’s laptops/Macs/PC’s syncing constantly over the web. With a simple back-up utility, I then keep versioning on everyone’s documents. It’s enabled global back-ups, access to files from any computer from anywhere, and is all free other than hardward costs; much better solution then paying for an online service, and it’s already come in quite handy on many occasions!

  11. Chris

    FastSend is $240/year. I think this is way beyond the needs of readers of this review.

  12. Chris

    Avvenu also allows file sharing. I have been using Avvenu, Zapr, and AllPeers for the last month to identify the best solution for my workplace for P2P filesharing.

    AllPeers is great but the stipulation of Firefox is the snag. While I would love nothing better than to have all my clients on Firefox, many have never heard of the browser; don’t want to switch to something different; and/or work in environments were they must use IE or are blocked from installing software on their network computer.

    Zapr has been working pretty well to accommodate the issue with AllPeers. Clients seem to like it better since there is no installation requirement and they are accustomed to using a browser and hyperlinks. Although, the computer host has never been disconnected during a download. That is definitely a concern.

    Avvenu works great but has the same drawback that the computer must be connected (unless you pay for GuaranteedAccess). I have paid for GuaranteedAccess and files are stored on the Avvenu servers for access anytime and anywhere. GuaranteedAccess is very affordable for 10Gb of server space at $30US/yr or $4US/mo. Similar to Zapr, the recipient does not have to install any software. The host selects a file in the administrator, enters the contact email addresses to share the file, and a message is sent to the recipient list. The nice feature of Avvenu is that you can also set expirations of the share from 1 day to 1 year and you can remove a specific contact from a share at anytime. All contacts are stored in the service for repeat shares. Avvenu has been the best solution so far in my experience. The only drawback that I have encounted with Avvenu is the host software is Windows only currently. However, they have a notice on the site that a Mac-based version is under development. Fortunately, I have a PC connected to our XServe and can use the Avvenu to share our files with clients.

  13. Sebastian

    Pando and AllPeers beta tester here. Besides the fact that they don’t support Linux, Pando is the clear winner. It’s the simpliest app to use and lets me send files to anyone, not just Firefox users on my buddy list. The fact they boost transfer speeds with their own servers is a big plus for me since relying on my DSL upload speed alone drives my friends NUTs. I’ll check out Zapr and Exaroom.

  14. Shahar Nechmad

    Nice review. I would really want to check out AllPears. I think that the winner will be a service that simply mimic windows UI but use bittorent in the backend.
    Everyone knows how up move files between folders, and this is exectly what you need your UI to look like. Add a right click -> security and the option to use it from the browser or from a special windows directory on your HD and you got yourself a winner.

  15. Michael

    I would have also like to see what they thought of Dliveo (www.dliveo.com). It’s also free, it uploads the file to the server so the transfers are very quick, and doesn’t use e-mail at all as part of the transport. It also does a great job of picking up where the sender/receiver left off when one of them goes offline for some reason.

    Not sure why they picked the 4 they picked for the review, there are others out there that are superior for sure in my opinion.

    Does anyone need another IM tool and another buddy management tool?

  16. Brian

    Pubet.com similar to Zapr, although it’s based on java. Nice thing about them is they have image processing so I used it for photo sharing. Another part I like is they have different sharing modes: both for public/private sharing.

    Allpeers is more of hype rather than real alternatives. I tested on latest release, everytime I tried more than 50 files, it hanged forever. Better to attach with email. Plus your friends have to be on FF with AllPeers as well.

    Zapr by far the easiest one if you have .net already. The downsize is they only support public sharing (with url).

    I would like to see a real elegant solution for asymmetric sharing, meaning receipts don;t have to do anything but point click. Hope this sector will evolve thay way.

  17. Thomas

    I am happy to see that Michael mentioned Yousendit because they are the most business oriented of all the sites. For paid users they replicate your files to data centers on both coasts. If you register with them you get a inbox, sent items, track downloads, SSL downloads and uploads, and a address book. Then they have higher end accounts that give you the ability to brand the service for your business.

    Most importantly, their interface is the one I can explain to my mother and her small business. The others are too complicated or try to do to much.

    I have used all the services and prefer Yousendit. I don’t like IM because I have to be online. P2P is not all that secure either in my opinion. Of course I am trying to run a business not share the latest Brittany Spears video. If things don’t work, I loose money. So I pay 4.99 a month to make sure they do work.

  18. Kazimieras

    “The old Napster is long gone, but was of course replaced with many other P2P networks. ”
    Note - Napster was not a p2p service in the proper sense as it did require a proper central server to handle all requests and link up peers etc. First p2p networks was the gnutella and derived clients.

  19. Dominic

    Interesting comment on yousendit. Like Michael, I’ve been suing the beta version of Dliveo and am very happy with it. It is encrypted and easy to understand. It sits active on your computer and you’ll get a notification that a file is waiting. no going to a web site for download. I’ve tried yousendit and pando - didn’t like either of them.

  20. excuseme

    i have to say that allpeers is the le utmost sh*tty app i came across in a long time (well maybe not as annoying as windows media player but…)

    i was invited to the beta an it lacks an intuitive interface as well as any options that make sense… i never got to share a file anyways because files get connected to userr and when you click anywhere everything disappears… no history and real indicators of whats going on

    to me the whole thing just seems like an insane VC-burning-stunt…

    apart from that… the whopping ~5mb FF extension wont make your fox go any faster let alone random crashes and incompability with some popular extensions

    i wont try any of the other apps mentioned here because some people still hang in IRC and sharing files is done via simple drag’n'drop

    in addition emailing and public upload sites do the job well because you wont save any time by using those great “p2p” apps… your upstream always stays the same whatever app you use (well maybe one of them has gator internet speed-up or something similar bundled in to make the fun complete)

  21. BitBurner

    I really like BOX.NET it has a google personalized home page module that I use all the time. I want a konfabulator (yahoo widget engine) widget now :)

  22. UseLSD

    You said “Zapr is built on the .NET platform and therefore is only available for use on Windows machines.” .NET isn’t limited to Windows however. Have you checked out Mono?

    “Mono provides the necessary software to develop and run .NET client and server applications on Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X, Windows, and Unix.”

    http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page

  23. lemon obrien

    here’s something new…not yet out yet…and completely different.

    http://www.tamago.us

  24. Chris

    Looks like the allpeers extension posted on the FireFox extensions site is Windows only. Useless.

  25. pat

    actually, allpeers is based in Prague despite where the company might be registered.

    And i agree with excuseme up there somewhere. It’s not a good app. Difficult to use, hogs bandwidth, and you can’t even cancel a download once it’s started. Bleh.

  26. Yeah

    Good Lord, you could at least spell BitTorrent right.

  27. Jack

    http://www.rarhost.com is another private hosting site, unique for winrar .rar files with advanced features.

  28. Verde

    Linux version of allpeers no workie… At least not yet… Hopefully soon, I think this is a cool idea.

  29. pat

    Cool idea? well… if you use Firefox. And all your friends use Firefox. And they’re all prepared to put up with allpeers sitting there the whole time you’re using Firefox. Yeah, sure, it’s an okay idea.

    You know, you can’t even send messages with allpeers. you just send the files. you can’t chat to people with it about what youve sent. you cant add comments. it’s not good.

  30. lemon obrien

    >> Firefox

    i agree with pat, but I think many of the people on TechCrunch are alternative (anything but what the masses use) techno oriented.

    they’re wanna-bes…in that they’re expert users but don’t actaully make the products…so bitch and complain about how it don’t run on Apple, or in Firefox…

    I personally think anything dealing with the browser is crap…its like writing a photoshop plug-in…

    we’re talking about browser programming and its sad silcon valley can only do that now.

  31. Brandon

    I agree with Pat. I think that AllPeers sounds like a good little tool for sharing URL’s maybe, and casually sharing docs and music with friends, but overall, in a more professional environment, you can’t count on all of your users having Firefox, or being willing to install a program and register in order to access your files.

    Personally, I’ve been beta testing Zapr for a long time now, and I feel that it is most useful to me, since I need something I can share documents with and then retrieve them at school, while also using it to share music and other things (by sharing entire folders so that I can pick what to share within my computer).

    Of course Zapr isn’t useful for everyone since so many users cannot leave their computers on (although they have said they will improve that somehow).

  32. Eric

    Why’d you leave off the IM clients?

    Windows Live Messenger now has shared folders, and GTalk has drag and drop file sharing. And I used to use AIM for filesharing for years.

    (By the way, for those criticizing AllPeers: I think this is one case where the beta label is deserved - I’d hope they work out some of the UI difficulties and buggyness before a 1.0 release, but there’s little point in bitching when they’re only up to 0.4)

  33. Paul Irish

    “All four of these services are useful tools for sharing large files with a trusted network. ”
    That’s the summary? Where’s the critical analysis and contrasts?
    If you’re not providing your own voice and thoughts—perhaps, gasp, having something critical to say about a non-google—then you might as well be copy/pasting press releases.

  34. Michael Arrington

    “If you are looking to create a long term sharing network, Allpeers is the way to go. It has platform flexibilty (works on Windows, Linux and Mac), allows creation of buddy lists that allow easy multiple transfers over time, and does not require the use of email to confirm file downloads.”

    I think I said what I think.

  35. someone

    Bitorrent -> LimeWire -> emule
    the best p2p at alll,

  36. Paul

    AllPeers beta tester. Far to many issues to go into and far to complicated. I want to share videos with grandparents. This is not a solution.

  37. Gil

    It appears that TechCrunch is giving a lot of coverage recently on File Sharing, with many new companies entering this space. However, the effectiveness of many of these solutions is very limited in the context of business and even more so in the context of intensive team collaboration settings.

    Imagine you are working with a team on a project that involves frequent exchanges of emails along with constantly modified documents (basically what many of us do routinely these days). Supplement that with ongoing IM and phone/VOIP calls and you have a labyrinth of communication, cooperation and collaboration challenges (See very interesting article on the difference between these: http://www.itdl.org/Journal/Jun_06/article02.htm) with critical content scattered across a range of applications and systems.

    File Sharing by itself is great for exchanging simple media such as photos and music and even for backing up files, but when a team has to collaborate on a file (s), discuss, modify, approve, version, track changes, etc. there needs to be ONE, consolidated solution in place to make it possible. At the enterprise level, Lotus Notes and Sharepoint are common solutions to address many of these needs, however, they are costly and complex, therefore inaccesible to those of us ad hoc users or smaller businesses seeking something simple and inexpensive. Web-based solutions are…web-based, therefore restrict much of the work from being done offline and require centralized servers.

    Although still a few weeks away from launching the fully loaded version of our (Collanos) free team collaboration solution, “Collanos Workplace”, has set out to take file sharing to another level. Our Peer-to-Peer, cross-platform (Yes, Mac, Linux and Windows!) solution will not compete with File Sharing solutions rather with those evolving to the next level of P2P 2.0.

  38. Brian

    Are there any apps I can load on my own server and host myself?

  39. ephy

    To correct an error in the article, PANDO (www.Pando.com) from version 0.9 and after doesn’t require any registration and/or verification (captcha - yes) — just download and use.

  40. Bruno

    I am using http://www.esnips.com and it is also worth trying. 1GB free storage to upload and share anything.

  41. Raj

    Pando has resorted to throwing up the equivalent of pop-ups by shelling out a new Internet Explorer session on Windows. Guess they couldn’t monetize the transfers any other way.

  42. John Crusak

    Use http://www.YouSwap.com or YouSendIt.com cause it’s better.

    I’ve tried all the above P2P file sending services and each one of them gives my friends and I problems. Mainly, the transfers always stall. And it’s not my interent connection that’s the problem cause I have extreme high speed (6 mbps). so I rather use the more popular services such as yousendit.com or http://www.youswap.com.

  43. DK

    Thats strange. We have never gotten feedback (except for this one) that Zapr transfers stall. Our users frequently transfer files of hundreds of megabytes (sometimes over a gig) without any problems. If all four of these services stall on your PC, then I respectfully ask you to check your connection again - not the speed, but the continuity.

    Also quick note (and product plug) - Zapr is not primarily a large file sending app. It is sharing and publishing platform which permits easy distribution of dynamically changing content via simple URL links… and it does now have private sharing.

  44. John Crusak

    hey DK…actually the problem was not with my internet. Many of the people I send files to through P2P apps like Zapr stall due to the internet connection of my recipients. Many of them are living in the stone ages and have dialup. oh well, what can I do about that…many of my friends can’t afford high speed. but whatever, for now YouSwap.com is working fine for me. Cause atleast with that I can upload the files at highspeed (cause I have broadband) and then my friends can download the files on their slow connection at their own time, which means I don’t have to leave my pc on and wait for the transfer to finish.

  45. Dylan GOUBIN

    One other to add : http://www.neobebox.com
    In French (English, spanish, german translation in progress)