Comments on: YouTube goes down for the first time http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:08:32 -0800 hourly 1 By: perde http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-2577196 perde Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:15:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-2577196 good good

]]> By: 1kibasan1 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-2536208 1kibasan1 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:29:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-2536208 Youtube is down? Oh shit i didn't notice ._. No seriously.... It works fine for me ._. Youtube is down? Oh shit i didn’t notice ._. No seriously…. It works fine for me ._.

]]> By: Paul http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-862283 Paul Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:37:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-862283 Every Website has issues, as they are all dependent on technology to run properly. As for them not having the revenue to scale their business model, that is a load of crap. I make anywhere between $1-$10 per 1000 PageViews on Adsense. So with YouTube's 100,000,000 pageviews daily, that means they are making $100,000 per day roughly. they can afford the bandwidth plus pimp rides for the staff. Every Website has issues, as they are all dependent on technology to run properly. As for them not having the revenue to scale their business model, that is a load of crap. I make anywhere between $1-$10 per 1000 PageViews on Adsense. So with YouTube’s 100,000,000 pageviews daily, that means they are making $100,000 per day roughly. they can afford the bandwidth plus pimp rides for the staff.

]]> By: 小小研究員的學習之路 » [2006/08/16] 網路書籤 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-360854 小小研究員的學習之路 » [2006/08/16] 網路書籤 Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:47:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-360854 [...] Techcrunch » Blog Archive » YouTube goes down for the first time 08/16 10:06, 2006 YouTube第一次非預警嗝屁，可能是值得紀念的日子。如果網站太常掛點的話，使用者可是會流失的。所以多年後我們可能會寫：「2006/8/15 YouTube第一次非預警當機，但後續處理得當，對營運並無負面影響，等等等等…」或者也可能寫；「2006/8/15 YouTube第一次非預警當機，之後又連續多次當機，造成使用者流失，也間接促成了TheyTube的崛起，等等等等…」 [...] [...] Techcrunch » Blog Archive » YouTube goes down for the first time 08/16 10:06, 2006 YouTube第一次非預警嗝屁，可能是值得紀念的日子。如果網站太常掛點的話，使用者可是會流失的。所以多年後我們可能會寫：「2006/8/15 YouTube第一次非預警當機，但後續處理得當，對營運並無負面影響，等等等等…」或者也可能寫；「2006/8/15 YouTube第一次非預警當機，之後又連續多次當機，造成使用者流失，也間接促成了TheyTube的崛起，等等等等…」 [...]

]]> By: jordan http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-203957 jordan Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:48:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-203957 muy buena la pajina ajaj muy buena la pajina ajaj

]]> By: Antonio http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-162502 Antonio Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:55:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-162502 You tybe is down right now, i didn´t thoght they were prepare for this, as i know to may users can´t take down a server, i will apear slow but do not stop serving. I don´t know, it seams that they´re having problems attendig the request or some haking problem. Anyway this start bothering me, i need people to see my videos... sorry about my english... You tybe is down right now, i didn´t thoght they were prepare for this, as i know to may users can´t take down a server, i will apear slow but do not stop serving. I don´t know, it seams that they´re having problems attendig the request or some haking problem. Anyway this start bothering me, i need people to see my videos…

sorry about my english…

]]> By: James Day http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-158093 James Day Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:47:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-158093 Marshal, "press inquiries have confirmed that it was actually a database failure that took the site down" Press enquiries have confirmed "a database-related issue". I suggest that you ask YouTube what they currently think the cause was. The difference is just where the words imply that the failure happened. A broken network cable, for example, would be database-related but not database server software. Dan100, forgive the directness here: you're talking rubbish. Yes, I do know how much pain is and isn't involved at Wikipedia and _why_ it's pain. MySQL is rarely the _cause_. Power outages, high load, lots of servers so some fail, not as much redundancy as would be nice (funding limited) etc. are the usual reason. MySQL itself basically just motors on delivering results. Everything is painful once you get large enough - there are so many things to tune and monitor and break that everything requires regular attention and tuning and maintaining and hassle. You're probably not allowing for this "big is painful for everything" factor. As for the very largest: how about 250 billion transaction a quarter for Overture? Or Google Adsense and AdWords? Or Yahoo? Sorry, but the *very* largest sites on the net are using MySQL successfully. It's so routine it might even be a good guideline to how to take over the world: "start with MySQL and the rest of the LAMP stack". You can do it in other ways but this is the best beaten track to the top. First DBA, Wikipedia. Support Engineer, MySQL AB Marshal,

“press inquiries have confirmed that it was actually a database failure that took the site down”

Press enquiries have confirmed “a database-related issue”. I suggest that you ask YouTube what they currently think the cause was. The difference is just where the words imply that the failure happened. A broken network cable, for example, would be database-related but not database server software.

Dan100, forgive the directness here: you’re talking rubbish.

Yes, I do know how much pain is and isn’t involved at Wikipedia and _why_ it’s pain. MySQL is rarely the _cause_. Power outages, high load, lots of servers so some fail, not as much redundancy as would be nice (funding limited) etc. are the usual reason. MySQL itself basically just motors on delivering results. Everything is painful once you get large enough – there are so many things to tune and monitor and break that everything requires regular attention and tuning and maintaining and hassle. You’re probably not allowing for this “big is painful for everything” factor.

As for the very largest: how about 250 billion transaction a quarter for Overture? Or Google Adsense and AdWords? Or Yahoo? Sorry, but the *very* largest sites on the net are using MySQL successfully. It’s so routine it might even be a good guideline to how to take over the world: “start with MySQL and the rest of the LAMP stack”. You can do it in other ways but this is the best beaten track to the top.

First DBA, Wikipedia.
Support Engineer, MySQL AB

]]> By: JasonKolb.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-143914 JasonKolb.com Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:13:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-143914 <strong>Web 2.0 is stuck in unscalable hell...</strong> This is a disturbing trend. Although I've hoped that it would self-correct as these companies have gotten older, a LOT of Web 2.0 companies are NOT scaling well at all. In fact the reverse is true, they seem to be... Web 2.0 is stuck in unscalable hell…

This is a disturbing trend. Although I’ve hoped that it would self-correct as these companies have gotten older, a LOT of Web 2.0 companies are NOT scaling well at all. In fact the reverse is true, they seem to be…

]]> By: Kevin H Nalty http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-142403 Kevin H Nalty Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:04:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-142403 You don't see YouTube's business model? You idiot's just don't "get it." YouTube Explained: http://www.revver.com/video/41613/3331 The Guy Who Will Save YouTube: http://www.revver.com/video/39028/3331 You don’t see YouTube’s business model? You idiot’s just don’t “get it.”

YouTube Explained:
http://www.revv...ideo/41613/3331

The Guy Who Will Save YouTube:
http://www.revv...ideo/39028/3331

]]> By: Dan100 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-141581 Dan100 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:14:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-141581 "MySQL is running most of the top Web 2.0 sites on the Internet, as well as a large majority of the highest-hit sites in the world, including Wikipedia, Slashdot, LiveJournal, Feedburner, mixi.jp (MySpace of Japan), Technorati, Flickr, Craigslist, Yahoo! Finance, Google Adsense, del.icio.us, digg, and the list goes on and on. Gimme a break." Have you witnessed the trouble the Wikimedia sysadmins go through to maintain their MySQL servers? I have, and to say they're pushing the envelope is an understatement. Lots and lots of pain. All the other sites you list are tiny compared to the big boys. The *very* largest sites on the net DON'T run MySQL; indeed there are superior databases out there. “MySQL is running most of the top Web 2.0 sites on the Internet, as well as a large majority of the highest-hit sites in the world, including Wikipedia, Slashdot, LiveJournal, Feedburner, mixi.jp (MySpace of Japan), Technorati, Flickr, Craigslist, Yahoo! Finance, Google Adsense, del.icio.us, digg, and the list goes on and on.

Gimme a break.”

Have you witnessed the trouble the Wikimedia sysadmins go through to maintain their MySQL servers? I have, and to say they’re pushing the envelope is an understatement. Lots and lots of pain.

All the other sites you list are tiny compared to the big boys. The *very* largest sites on the net DON’T run MySQL; indeed there are superior databases out there.

]]> By: Dan100 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-141573 Dan100 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:07:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-141573 "Where is my incentive to use YouTube over other services?" Superior ease-of-use and quality of playback than competitors. “Where is my incentive to use YouTube over other services?”

Superior ease-of-use and quality of playback than competitors.

]]> By: Pal http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-141296 Pal Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:21:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-141296 100 million videos a day = 400+ terabytes (assuming 5 MB/video) a day! OMG. 100 million videos a day = 400+ terabytes (assuming 5 MB/video) a day!

OMG.

]]> By: jsaltz http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-141222 jsaltz Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:10:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-141222 An abomination. An abomination.

]]> By: intermedia » Blog Archive » YouTube goes Down http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-141018 intermedia » Blog Archive » YouTube goes Down Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:21:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-141018 [...] Techcrunch » Blog Archive » YouTube goes down for the first time [...] [...] Techcrunch » Blog Archive » YouTube goes down for the first time [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140787 Chris Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:39:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140787 Outages will happen, but YouTube really doesn't have a viable business model. It's far to expensive to run and I don't think ads (banner or video) will cover the operational costs. Outages will happen, but YouTube really doesn’t have a viable business model. It’s far to expensive to run and I don’t think ads (banner or video) will cover the operational costs.

]]> By: SoulCast http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140731 SoulCast Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:48:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140731 Does anyone know how many servers they are running to manage that kind of load? I'm pretty impressed that they have been able to scale thus far without a hitch and 6 hrs of downtime is really nothing considering their growth. I'm not a data admin, but I know there is so much backend work in scaling hardware/database efficiently and they've done a great job thus far. Does anyone know how many servers they are running to manage that kind of load?

I’m pretty impressed that they have been able to scale thus far without a hitch and 6 hrs of downtime is really nothing considering their growth.

I’m not a data admin, but I know there is so much backend work in scaling hardware/database efficiently and they’ve done a great job thus far.

]]> By: Gordon Mohr http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140698 Gordon Mohr Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:18:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140698 Search for 'ebay outage' and 'amazon outage' and you'll see longer outages from these sites even in years when they were (1) public companies; (2) with hundreds of employees; and (3) profitable. Seriously, lots of TechCrunch's coverage has the perspective and attention span of a hyper puppy. Good for spawning long discussion threads. But not very credible. Search for ‘ebay outage’ and ‘amazon outage’ and you’ll see longer outages from these sites even in years when they were (1) public companies; (2) with hundreds of employees; and (3) profitable.

Seriously, lots of TechCrunch’s coverage has the perspective and attention span of a hyper puppy. Good for spawning long discussion threads. But not very credible.

]]> By: Rodrigo A. SEPULVEDA SCHULZ http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140638 Rodrigo A. SEPULVEDA SCHULZ Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:25:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140638 hum... 1) the company is barely 18 months old. Growing problems are natural. And they offer their service for free, hence their SLA would allow them every now and then a little outage. I think they've done tremendously well with their limited cash, unmber of employees, and time to build all of it so quick. 2) now that they have the audience, how difficult would it be for youtube to start doing revshare ? or splash ads a little more ? and in addition, they could go into a myspace-google kind of deal in a snap to monetize the traffic. 100m videos served a day... that's 3b a month ! hum…

1) the company is barely 18 months old. Growing problems are natural. And they offer their service for free, hence their SLA would allow them every now and then a little outage. I think they’ve done tremendously well with their limited cash, unmber of employees, and time to build all of it so quick.

2) now that they have the audience, how difficult would it be for youtube to start doing revshare ? or splash ads a little more ? and in addition, they could go into a myspace-google kind of deal in a snap to monetize the traffic.

100m videos served a day… that’s 3b a month !

]]> By: Consumer Lab » YouTube goes down for the first time http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140589 Consumer Lab » YouTube goes down for the first time Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:25:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140589 [...] Techcrunch » Blog Archive » YouTube goes down for the first time On the same day that new Comscore numbers came out indicating new traffic highs for YouTube, the site went down for six hours this morning in the first unplanned outage since launching in February of 2005. Though users were told that new features were in the works, press inquiries have confirmed that it was actually a database failure that took the site down. Periodic planned downtimes at night, US time, are common but today marked the first major service failure for the site. [...] [...] Techcrunch » Blog Archive » YouTube goes down for the first time On the same day that new Comscore numbers came out indicating new traffic highs for YouTube, the site went down for six hours this morning in the first unplanned outage since launching in February of 2005. Though users were told that new features were in the works, press inquiries have confirmed that it was actually a database failure that took the site down. Periodic planned downtimes at night, US time, are common but today marked the first major service failure for the site. [...]

]]> By: Damiens Journal » Blog Archive » Snakes on Rapnix… http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140513 Damiens Journal » Blog Archive » Snakes on Rapnix… Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:45:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140513 [...] Theres been alot of talk about Youtube lately, mainly because of yesterday when it went down for the first time since 2005 to be honest there im not really suprised it gets like millions of hits a day so its something you would of expected earlier but kudos to them for keeping it running for as long as they did. Second thing is they are gonna try and get a deal to show music videos which would be pretty cool because I like to watch music videos so if I can watch them legally through there it would be better. [...] [...] Theres been alot of talk about Youtube lately, mainly because of yesterday when it went down for the first time since 2005 to be honest there im not really suprised it gets like millions of hits a day so its something you would of expected earlier but kudos to them for keeping it running for as long as they did. Second thing is they are gonna try and get a deal to show music videos which would be pretty cool because I like to watch music videos so if I can watch them legally through there it would be better. [...]

]]> By: Matt Fleckenstein http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140512 Matt Fleckenstein Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:44:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140512 Raises the question as to whether YouTube can scale? What? Huh? Are you serious on this? It's one of the 20 most frequently visited sites in the U.S. serving more than 100 million videos a day...not search results, but videos. Not scale? What? Huh? Call me a bloody fool...but that does seem like scale to me. Raises the question as to whether YouTube can scale? What? Huh? Are you serious on this? It’s one of the 20 most frequently visited sites in the U.S. serving more than 100 million videos a day…not search results, but videos. Not scale? What? Huh?

Call me a bloody fool…but that does seem like scale to me.

]]> By: Jay Pipes http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140429 Jay Pipes Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:28:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140429 @Sam Donaldson, who said, "If they do use mysql then what I can say is that it is NOT the most reliable db out there and is not intended to support such crazy traffic", I would only say that you should check your facts, mate. MySQL is running most of the top Web 2.0 sites on the Internet, as well as a large majority of the highest-hit sites in the world, including Wikipedia, Slashdot, LiveJournal, Feedburner, mixi.jp (MySpace of Japan), Technorati, Flickr, Craigslist, Yahoo! Finance, Google Adsense, del.icio.us, digg, and the list goes on and on. Gimme a break. @Sam Donaldson, who said, “If they do use mysql then what I can say is that it is NOT the most reliable db out there and is not intended to support such crazy traffic”, I would only say that you should check your facts, mate. MySQL is running most of the top Web 2.0 sites on the Internet, as well as a large majority of the highest-hit sites in the world, including Wikipedia, Slashdot, LiveJournal, Feedburner, mixi.jp (MySpace of Japan), Technorati, Flickr, Craigslist, Yahoo! Finance, Google Adsense, del.icio.us, digg, and the list goes on and on.

Gimme a break.

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140052 Marshall Kirkpatrick Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:04:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140052 Mr. Donaldson et al - yes, point taken that 100m videos demonstrates scalability but jesus christ does 6 hours of downtime at peak hours not also demonstrate a hint of a problem? Likewise, as note worthy events in the Web 2.0 startup world go, I'd say this makes the mark. Mr. Donaldson et al – yes, point taken that 100m videos demonstrates scalability but jesus christ does 6 hours of downtime at peak hours not also demonstrate a hint of a problem? Likewise, as note worthy events in the Web 2.0 startup world go, I’d say this makes the mark.

]]> By: Sam Donaldson http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140048 Sam Donaldson Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:01:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140048 I don't understand why I keep coming to this blog. I'm hoping more of these come out and create some kind of brand name for themselves with sane reporting. Do you realize what it takes to support 100+ million video views a day...and that too for a company of size 30-40 emps? I'm surprised they didn't crash before. If they do use mysql then what I can say is that it is NOT the most reliable db out there and is not intended to support such crazy traffic. You really have to get a lot out of the db for this type of traffic. Anyway, just my thoughts. I don’t understand why I keep coming to this blog. I’m hoping more of these come out and create some kind of brand name for themselves with sane reporting. Do you realize what it takes to support 100+ million video views a day…and that too for a company of size 30-40 emps? I’m surprised they didn’t crash before. If they do use mysql then what I can say is that it is NOT the most reliable db out there and is not intended to support such crazy traffic. You really have to get a lot out of the db for this type of traffic. Anyway, just my thoughts.

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/comment-page-1/#comment-140045 Marshall Kirkpatrick Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:54:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/15/youtube-goes-down-for-the-first-time/#comment-140045 Not bad, except for 6 hours in the middle of the busiest day online of the week. Goog has had outages, but I don't remember the one that lasted 6 hours! Lol , yeah Ed I agree though that things will probably be ok. Not bad, except for 6 hours in the middle of the busiest day online of the week. Goog has had outages, but I don’t remember the one that lasted 6 hours! Lol , yeah Ed I agree though that things will probably be ok.

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