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		<title>By: The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo Shuts Bix Down. Did Anyone Notice?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-2901431</link>
		<dc:creator>The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo Shuts Bix Down. Did Anyone Notice?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first wrote about Bix in July 2006 and then again in August 2006. The company had raised $6.77 million from Sutter Hill Ventures, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yahoo Shuts Bix Down. Did Anyone Notice? &#124; Cellphone Ultra</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-2899734</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahoo Shuts Bix Down. Did Anyone Notice? &#124; Cellphone Ultra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first wrote about Bix in July 2006    and thereupon again in August 2006. The company had raised $6.77 million from Sutter Hill [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yahoo Shut Bix Down. Did Anyone Notice When?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-2899679</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahoo Shut Bix Down. Did Anyone Notice When?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first wrote about Bix in July 2006 and then again in August 2006. The company had raised $6.77 million from Sutter Hill Ventures, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Yahoo! Acquires MyBlogLog and Bix &#187; SEOpittfall &#187; Archive - Search Engine Optimization by pittfall!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-1564578</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Yahoo! Acquires MyBlogLog and Bix &#187; SEOpittfall &#187; Archive - Search Engine Optimization by pittfall!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bix: American Idol proved not just that we love watching the highs and lows of wannabe superstars, but that a surprising number of us wanted to be up there. It’s these two factors that make Bix, a company enabling public and private contests online, think the service it’s about to launch is a winner. Techcrunch [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bix: American Idol proved not just that we love watching the highs and lows of wannabe superstars, but that a surprising number of us wanted to be up there. It’s these two factors that make Bix, a company enabling public and private contests online, think the service it’s about to launch is a winner. Techcrunch [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Boomerang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Contest Service Hopes to Breathe Life Into Brands</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-817607</link>
		<dc:creator>Boomerang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Contest Service Hopes to Breathe Life Into Brands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch has an interesting article up about Bix, an online service (currently in invite-only beta) that allows sponsors to easily create and control contests. Sponsors can allow entrants to submit video, audio, or photo content and can even allow voting if they are really after the “American Idol” feel. For marketers, Bix provides an opportunity to interact with target customers and provides opportunities not just to increase brand visibility, but to offer such things as coupons and offers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TechCrunch has an interesting article up about Bix, an online service (currently in invite-only beta) that allows sponsors to easily create and control contests. Sponsors can allow entrants to submit video, audio, or photo content and can even allow voting if they are really after the “American Idol” feel. For marketers, Bix provides an opportunity to interact with target customers and provides opportunities not just to increase brand visibility, but to offer such things as coupons and offers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: T4nvCxITlm</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sara Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-237975</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I agree. But there seems to be talent brewing at yet another site too: 

http://www.singshot.com/playPerformance.html?performanceId=17678&amp;play=Y

I went over to bix to see if this gal was registered there under the same user name. Luckily she is but no recordings yet, then I found a post from her regarding having a dll problem with the new Recorder. It would be a shame if that problem doesn&#039;t get fixed since she obviously has talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I agree. But there seems to be talent brewing at yet another site too: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.singshot.com/playPerformance.html?performanceId=17678&amp;play=Y" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.singshot.com/playPerformance.html?performanceId=17678&amp;play=Y'>http://www.sing...7678&amp;play=Y</a></p>
<p>I went over to bix to see if this gal was registered there under the same user name. Luckily she is but no recordings yet, then I found a post from her regarding having a dll problem with the new Recorder. It would be a shame if that problem doesn&#8217;t get fixed since she obviously has talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Wilhelm</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-207782</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Wilhelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be some talent brewing on bix...check out this guy:

http://www.bix.com/entry/3475</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be some talent brewing on bix&#8230;check out this guy:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bix.com/entry/3475" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.bix.com/entry/3475'>http://www.bix.com/entry/3475</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bix Launches $50,000 Contest at backwhack - tech news web 2.0 style</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-130431</link>
		<dc:creator>Bix Launches $50,000 Contest at backwhack - tech news web 2.0 style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Since I last wrote about them, they’ve made improvements to the UI and added some community features, like a really simple upload to “My Space”. All of this increases the chances that this could really explode. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Since I last wrote about them, they’ve made improvements to the UI and added some community features, like a really simple upload to “My Space”. All of this increases the chances that this could really explode. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bix Launches $50,000 Contest</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-129653</link>
		<dc:creator>Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bix Launches $50,000 Contest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Since I last wrote about them, they’ve made improvements to the UI and added some community features, like a really simple upload to “My Space”. All of this increases the chances that this could really explode. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Since I last wrote about them, they’ve made improvements to the UI and added some community features, like a really simple upload to “My Space”. All of this increases the chances that this could really explode. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SingShot Enters Online Karaoke Space</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-117765</link>
		<dc:creator>Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SingShot Enters Online Karaoke Space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Readers should also check out our coverage of Bix, a contest service,that seems ideal for a mashup with these two song sites. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Readers should also check out our coverage of Bix, a contest service,that seems ideal for a mashup with these two song sites. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-114599</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys check out this review on ksolo.


http://nicevilblogs.wordpress.com/2006/07/28/ksolocom/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys check out this review on ksolo.</p>
<p><a href="http://nicevilblogs.wordpress.com/2006/07/28/ksolocom/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://nicevilblogs.wordpress.com/2006/07/28/ksolocom/'>http://nicevilb...07/28/ksolocom/</a></p>
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		<title>By: EricaRoane</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-107427</link>
		<dc:creator>EricaRoane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was just searching for online singing contests and found this... I would like to know more.. like how to audition for it and so fourth. I also have a website I would love to advertise your contest for ya send me an email! Thanks in advance EricaRoane

PS you can check out other online singing contests at my website
www.freewebs.com/singerssoiree/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was just searching for online singing contests and found this&#8230; I would like to know more.. like how to audition for it and so fourth. I also have a website I would love to advertise your contest for ya send me an email! Thanks in advance EricaRoane</p>
<p>PS you can check out other online singing contests at my website<br />
<a href="http://www.freewebs.com/singerssoiree/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.freewebs.com/singerssoiree/'>http://www.free.../singerssoiree/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Graydon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-105641</link>
		<dc:creator>Graydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall, it sounds interesting... but I can&#039;t get over the 6+million in capital to do this.

I&#039;m sure I&#039;m somewhat ignorant of some of the technology costs to do things like hosting the content (or offloading hosting to photobucket) and setting up the interface so that the user&#039;s have an online karaoke machine... and even building the user voting system that sorts through the numerous uploads... but the core functionality of putting up two &quot;objects&quot; and voting between them is free in the open source market.

One of the &quot;pluses&quot; is for any user to set up a competition... so that implies any school can now host an online talent competition.  Why use Bix when the computer class could build a site for free?

Overall, it may be a viable market... but I think that knockoffs are going to come fast and cheap.

Graydon
Marlin Creek - Idea Seeds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, it sounds interesting&#8230; but I can&#8217;t get over the 6+million in capital to do this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m somewhat ignorant of some of the technology costs to do things like hosting the content (or offloading hosting to photobucket) and setting up the interface so that the user&#8217;s have an online karaoke machine&#8230; and even building the user voting system that sorts through the numerous uploads&#8230; but the core functionality of putting up two &#8220;objects&#8221; and voting between them is free in the open source market.</p>
<p>One of the &#8220;pluses&#8221; is for any user to set up a competition&#8230; so that implies any school can now host an online talent competition.  Why use Bix when the computer class could build a site for free?</p>
<p>Overall, it may be a viable market&#8230; but I think that knockoffs are going to come fast and cheap.</p>
<p>Graydon<br />
Marlin Creek &#8211; Idea Seeds</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Speiser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103919</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Speiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion and excellent feedback M and Dave.  Thank you.

While we have a world-class engineering team and we are proud of the product we have built, we agree that a great product alone will not lead us to success.  The primary reason that we decided to go with an email invite beta rather than an open beta is that customer experience is more than just the product -- we need quality content in the system before we invite the masses to our site.  We are currently working on a few very targeted marketing programs in music (karaoke and bands) and in comedy.   We are also working on a few business development / customer deals of the sort M was suggesting -- we will hold off on those until we launch the site to the public.  

As Dave noted, our primary focus is to help discover &quot;micro-stars.&quot;  It would be great to help discover and develop mega-stars, but current solutions like American Idol do that fairly well.  What they don&#039;t do well is allow the aspiring performer who didn&#039;t make the final 12 on American Idol the opportunity to easily create, promote, and seek feedback on their craft (and earn Fortune, not just Fame as M noted in his comment).  We have worked to shift the emphasis from video editing skills to the essence of what those post-production efforts are trying to uncover -- talent.  

For example:

+ We have developed custom recorders for Windows and Macintosh which allow you to easily take control of your computer webcam and microphone to upload content to the site.  No separate software application is required.  No post-production applications like Final Cut Pro are necessary.  Use Bix to record and automatically upload any type of entry from comedy, to music, to beauty.

+  We have licensed music content to provide streaming lyrics and backing tracks so that a user can simply sing into their webcam to easily (and legally) create their own music video.  American Idol is a karaoke competition, despite protestations to the contrary from Simon...  We are making it easy for anyone to get their 15 minutes.

+  We also support photo upload and audio only entries (for those without a webcam) and we will launch support for other media types in the near future.

+ We allow any user to create any type of competition.

+ We agree with M that Fortune is a part of the story and we will launch a number of initiatives (product and other) to deliver on that requirement.

Thank you again for all of your feedback and interest.  The first 10,000 people who request an invite will get one, so please use the product and send us your thoughts at feedback@bix.com.

Best, 
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion and excellent feedback M and Dave.  Thank you.</p>
<p>While we have a world-class engineering team and we are proud of the product we have built, we agree that a great product alone will not lead us to success.  The primary reason that we decided to go with an email invite beta rather than an open beta is that customer experience is more than just the product &#8212; we need quality content in the system before we invite the masses to our site.  We are currently working on a few very targeted marketing programs in music (karaoke and bands) and in comedy.   We are also working on a few business development / customer deals of the sort M was suggesting &#8212; we will hold off on those until we launch the site to the public.  </p>
<p>As Dave noted, our primary focus is to help discover &#8220;micro-stars.&#8221;  It would be great to help discover and develop mega-stars, but current solutions like American Idol do that fairly well.  What they don&#8217;t do well is allow the aspiring performer who didn&#8217;t make the final 12 on American Idol the opportunity to easily create, promote, and seek feedback on their craft (and earn Fortune, not just Fame as M noted in his comment).  We have worked to shift the emphasis from video editing skills to the essence of what those post-production efforts are trying to uncover &#8212; talent.  </p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>+ We have developed custom recorders for Windows and Macintosh which allow you to easily take control of your computer webcam and microphone to upload content to the site.  No separate software application is required.  No post-production applications like Final Cut Pro are necessary.  Use Bix to record and automatically upload any type of entry from comedy, to music, to beauty.</p>
<p>+  We have licensed music content to provide streaming lyrics and backing tracks so that a user can simply sing into their webcam to easily (and legally) create their own music video.  American Idol is a karaoke competition, despite protestations to the contrary from Simon&#8230;  We are making it easy for anyone to get their 15 minutes.</p>
<p>+  We also support photo upload and audio only entries (for those without a webcam) and we will launch support for other media types in the near future.</p>
<p>+ We allow any user to create any type of competition.</p>
<p>+ We agree with M that Fortune is a part of the story and we will launch a number of initiatives (product and other) to deliver on that requirement.</p>
<p>Thank you again for all of your feedback and interest.  The first 10,000 people who request an invite will get one, so please use the product and send us your thoughts at <a href="mailto:feedback@bix.com">feedback@bix.com</a>.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Kjeldsen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103750</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Kjeldsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments. Great discussion. There is a cycle that needs to take hold for this thing to work: the prizes need to be good enough to get the talent participation, the talent needs to be good enough to get people to watch, but without the people, there will be no prizes... in speaking to the company there was recognititon that both professional talent and good prizes were needed to kickstart things, but we&#039;ll see how successful they are at securing both. Maybe Mike S. or Dave can comment one last time or maybe we&#039;ll just hear from them in a few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments. Great discussion. There is a cycle that needs to take hold for this thing to work: the prizes need to be good enough to get the talent participation, the talent needs to be good enough to get people to watch, but without the people, there will be no prizes&#8230; in speaking to the company there was recognititon that both professional talent and good prizes were needed to kickstart things, but we&#8217;ll see how successful they are at securing both. Maybe Mike S. or Dave can comment one last time or maybe we&#8217;ll just hear from them in a few months.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103696</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, good points.  Time will tell whether Bix will succeed.  I get your point that there is a segment of people that crave their 15 minutes of fame.  I also get the competitive angle as well.  Both the underlying fame and competition themes are powerful, in that they touch on some core elements of human nature.  I get it.  

Even in your blog post, your lead in says: &quot;Ever thought you could be a star... or at least the most famous kid in your school,  your neighborhood?  it&#039;s showtime, folks!  Or maybe you could be a producer, eh?  run your own talent contest, find the next Kelly Clarkson, they get famous... you get rich?&quot;  Your implicit suggestion is that by using Bix, you can become famous in some form or fashion.  In that regard, this is a talent showcase.

In the end, Bix is about entertainment.  While the human motivation to be found is strong, it doesn&#039;t translate to consumers being entertained by what users create.

My logic is this:
- Bix will need to demonstrate that consumers unrelated to the participants will want to watch these competitions.  There may be many high school talent competitions - but do I, as a consumer believe it is worth my time to watch this if I don&#039;t know the participants?  Hard to say.  Not me personally.  If that doesn&#039;t happen, the traffic will not come, and the advertisers certainly won&#039;t either.
- Part of the reason that American Idol, America&#039;s Got Talent, America&#039;s Funniest Home Videos, etc. hit it big is because they produced quality content that was immensely entertaining.  That took time and effort.  
- I&#039;d also wager that if you broke down YouTube videos served, that most of the content being viewed is content that came from traditional media (i.e. SNL&#039;s Chronicles of Narnia, Napoleon Dynamite, etc.).  Again, without those &#039;hits&#039; it&#039;s unclear to me whether YouTube would have hit it big.  Now that they have the traffic, what are they doing?  Working with traditional media to improve the production value of the content being presented on YouTube...they are increasing the enterainment value associated with their brand...

My recommendations to the Bix team, for what it&#039;s worth:
- Make sure you focus on producing quality content at the same time that you allow users to create their own competitions
- Don&#039;t fall in love with the idea that &#039;if you build it they will come&#039;
- To increase production value, work with sponsors to co-brand competitions with prizes, etc. to create an incentive for passionate users to want to participate.  For example, the best &#039;Pimped Out&#039; Toyota competition, sponsored by Toyota and Pimp My Ride, for example (thanks Josh for the 4x4 contest idea - I agree), with the prize being a new car and a feature on Pimp My Ride
- Get iPod to sponsor a &#039;Make your iPod commercial&#039; competition
- Identify open verticals - i.e. stay away from music given that MySpace has you covered there

Best of luck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, good points.  Time will tell whether Bix will succeed.  I get your point that there is a segment of people that crave their 15 minutes of fame.  I also get the competitive angle as well.  Both the underlying fame and competition themes are powerful, in that they touch on some core elements of human nature.  I get it.  </p>
<p>Even in your blog post, your lead in says: &#8220;Ever thought you could be a star&#8230; or at least the most famous kid in your school,  your neighborhood?  it&#8217;s showtime, folks!  Or maybe you could be a producer, eh?  run your own talent contest, find the next Kelly Clarkson, they get famous&#8230; you get rich?&#8221;  Your implicit suggestion is that by using Bix, you can become famous in some form or fashion.  In that regard, this is a talent showcase.</p>
<p>In the end, Bix is about entertainment.  While the human motivation to be found is strong, it doesn&#8217;t translate to consumers being entertained by what users create.</p>
<p>My logic is this:<br />
- Bix will need to demonstrate that consumers unrelated to the participants will want to watch these competitions.  There may be many high school talent competitions &#8211; but do I, as a consumer believe it is worth my time to watch this if I don&#8217;t know the participants?  Hard to say.  Not me personally.  If that doesn&#8217;t happen, the traffic will not come, and the advertisers certainly won&#8217;t either.<br />
- Part of the reason that American Idol, America&#8217;s Got Talent, America&#8217;s Funniest Home Videos, etc. hit it big is because they produced quality content that was immensely entertaining.  That took time and effort.<br />
- I&#8217;d also wager that if you broke down YouTube videos served, that most of the content being viewed is content that came from traditional media (i.e. SNL&#8217;s Chronicles of Narnia, Napoleon Dynamite, etc.).  Again, without those &#8216;hits&#8217; it&#8217;s unclear to me whether YouTube would have hit it big.  Now that they have the traffic, what are they doing?  Working with traditional media to improve the production value of the content being presented on YouTube&#8230;they are increasing the enterainment value associated with their brand&#8230;</p>
<p>My recommendations to the Bix team, for what it&#8217;s worth:<br />
- Make sure you focus on producing quality content at the same time that you allow users to create their own competitions<br />
- Don&#8217;t fall in love with the idea that &#8216;if you build it they will come&#8217;<br />
- To increase production value, work with sponsors to co-brand competitions with prizes, etc. to create an incentive for passionate users to want to participate.  For example, the best &#8216;Pimped Out&#8217; Toyota competition, sponsored by Toyota and Pimp My Ride, for example (thanks Josh for the 4&#215;4 contest idea &#8211; I agree), with the prize being a new car and a feature on Pimp My Ride<br />
- Get iPod to sponsor a &#8216;Make your iPod commercial&#8217; competition<br />
- Identify open verticals &#8211; i.e. stay away from music given that MySpace has you covered there</p>
<p>Best of luck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JoshStomel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103673</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshStomel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things, one if they market bix correctly, it will and can be a big hit. 

You are 100% right when you said, this is and will not become the next american idol of online contest, however it can possibly become the next american idol within smaller niche&#039;s and communities. 

For example, 
They can easily have a contest running for the best 4x4 off road truck, 
- Think of the viral marketing, gorilla marketing &amp; niche marketing that can be done in that small arena (Websites, Bulettin Boards, Niche Sites, etc)

Take that as an example of potential success within a small niche, if sucessful, that will snowball in to a handful of other small interest markets. 

Bix has the right idea, its going to come down to proper marketing, proper partnerships potentially b/w sponsors &amp; advertisers for related branding &amp; its going to come down to the UI. 

Im currently working on some of the same stuff with LiveDigital.com 

While this market may seem saturated, there is always room to &quot;explode&quot; within certian verticals..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things, one if they market bix correctly, it will and can be a big hit. </p>
<p>You are 100% right when you said, this is and will not become the next american idol of online contest, however it can possibly become the next american idol within smaller niche&#8217;s and communities. </p>
<p>For example,<br />
They can easily have a contest running for the best 4&#215;4 off road truck,<br />
- Think of the viral marketing, gorilla marketing &amp; niche marketing that can be done in that small arena (Websites, Bulettin Boards, Niche Sites, etc)</p>
<p>Take that as an example of potential success within a small niche, if sucessful, that will snowball in to a handful of other small interest markets. </p>
<p>Bix has the right idea, its going to come down to proper marketing, proper partnerships potentially b/w sponsors &amp; advertisers for related branding &amp; its going to come down to the UI. </p>
<p>Im currently working on some of the same stuff with LiveDigital.com </p>
<p>While this market may seem saturated, there is always room to &#8220;explode&#8221; within certian verticals..</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103650</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, for the record i am an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.500hats.com/sys-tmpl/startupclients/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;advisor to Bix&lt;/a&gt;... should have clarified that in my comment above.

however, that doesn&#039;t diminish my enthusiasm one bit... in fact, the reason i agreed to become an advisor is because i found the concept fascinating &amp; the business opportunity seemed like a good one.

(thanks to jeremy pepper for the Ms. Manners disclosure tip ;)

- dave mcclure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, for the record i am an <a href="http://www.500hats.com/sys-tmpl/startupclients/" rel="nofollow">advisor to Bix</a>&#8230; should have clarified that in my comment above.</p>
<p>however, that doesn&#8217;t diminish my enthusiasm one bit&#8230; in fact, the reason i agreed to become an advisor is because i found the concept fascinating &amp; the business opportunity seemed like a good one.</p>
<p>(thanks to jeremy pepper for the Ms. Manners disclosure tip <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>- dave mcclure</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Money</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103528</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what makes american idol work is the prize a 1 mil label deal 
i dont think a band cares if it gets more votes then any other band unless there is a reward.

on myspace indie bands want to get their views and listens up to get a major lable deal so in the music space bix only works if there is a reward no reward no fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what makes american idol work is the prize a 1 mil label deal<br />
i dont think a band cares if it gets more votes then any other band unless there is a reward.</p>
<p>on myspace indie bands want to get their views and listens up to get a major lable deal so in the music space bix only works if there is a reward no reward no fun</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103231</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M, you&#039;re missing the whole point.

Bix isn&#039;t trying to find the best talent in the country -- they&#039;re trying to find the best talent in your neighborhood (or your church, your school, your office, etc).  

have you ever considered how many local beauty pageants, high-school talent shows, cheerleader tryouts, photography contests, or any other &quot;middle-down-to-the-tail of the long tail&quot; local contests there are?  

whether or not the production value sucks or is just ok, there are PUH-LENTY of folks out there who want to see their kids, their sister, or themselves do well... even if the pond is a small one.  and yes, they&#039;ll pay to play, or pay to win as the case may be.

beyond that, i&#039;m sure there WILL be the 1% of content that really is worth watching... so i think your negativism / skepticism is quite unfounded &amp; narrow-minded.

it&#039;s showtime, folks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M, you&#8217;re missing the whole point.</p>
<p>Bix isn&#8217;t trying to find the best talent in the country &#8212; they&#8217;re trying to find the best talent in your neighborhood (or your church, your school, your office, etc).  </p>
<p>have you ever considered how many local beauty pageants, high-school talent shows, cheerleader tryouts, photography contests, or any other &#8220;middle-down-to-the-tail of the long tail&#8221; local contests there are?  </p>
<p>whether or not the production value sucks or is just ok, there are PUH-LENTY of folks out there who want to see their kids, their sister, or themselves do well&#8230; even if the pond is a small one.  and yes, they&#8217;ll pay to play, or pay to win as the case may be.</p>
<p>beyond that, i&#8217;m sure there WILL be the 1% of content that really is worth watching&#8230; so i think your negativism / skepticism is quite unfounded &amp; narrow-minded.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s showtime, folks!</p>
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		<title>By: Bix, turning anybody and everybody into America&#8217;s Idol</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103207</link>
		<dc:creator>Bix, turning anybody and everybody into America&#8217;s Idol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Neil Kjeldsen at TechCrunch posted the news that Bix has just launched into a closed beta. The basic idea behind this site is that you can upload your own videos and get them voted on as if it were American Idol or one of those other shows. Their thinking is that these shows were so popular and that YouTube and MySpace have already made stars, why wouldn’t a site geared towards this work just as well? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Neil Kjeldsen at TechCrunch posted the news that Bix has just launched into a closed beta. The basic idea behind this site is that you can upload your own videos and get them voted on as if it were American Idol or one of those other shows. Their thinking is that these shows were so popular and that YouTube and MySpace have already made stars, why wouldn’t a site geared towards this work just as well? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: One Happy Thing A Day &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Connections are happening</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103153</link>
		<dc:creator>One Happy Thing A Day &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Connections are happening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/'>http://www.tech...nline-contests/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-103093</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with this and the many other &#039;user generated&#039; sites is the general lack of production value.  Recall, American Idol spent an inordinate amount of time screening potential Idol candidates, and in the end, produced a high quality program with great talent.  Along the way, they found some hidden gems like William Hung.  But William couldn&#039;t exist in all of his fame and glory without the broader American Idol competition.  In the end, he was a side show - a pilot fish swimming underneath the programming Great White known as American Idol.

Bix, kSolo and the rest of these &#039;talent showcase&#039; sites, may (if they are really, really lucky) end up having one of their participants &#039;discovered&#039; by the likes of a Carson Daly or reach a level of fame like William Hung.  Of course, for that to happen, the law of large numbers comes into play.  How many millions of viewers were introduced to William Hung because they were watching the Idol competition?  How many millions of unique users posted to YouTube before Brooke Brodack was discovered?  At least kSolo has 70+ million uniques to work with.

In my view, the bottom line is this.  Without quality content, whether content provided by traditional media, or a well produced show like American Idol, you won&#039;t get the users.  No users, no virtuous cycle of content creation.  No content or users, no advertisers.  What then, Bix?  Will you be an online &#039;competition engine&#039; for traditional media companies?  Sorry, Fox already bought kSolo.  Next idea.

And speaking of YouTube, why exactly can&#039;t they do this?  I certainly hope that Bix hasn&#039;t drank the Kool-Aid to believe that their technology gives them an advantage...

Ah, the folly of Web 2.0.  My bet - Bix will be like William Hung - a side show that fades from our collective consciousness after the season ends, or at least until the venture money runs dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this and the many other &#8216;user generated&#8217; sites is the general lack of production value.  Recall, American Idol spent an inordinate amount of time screening potential Idol candidates, and in the end, produced a high quality program with great talent.  Along the way, they found some hidden gems like William Hung.  But William couldn&#8217;t exist in all of his fame and glory without the broader American Idol competition.  In the end, he was a side show &#8211; a pilot fish swimming underneath the programming Great White known as American Idol.</p>
<p>Bix, kSolo and the rest of these &#8216;talent showcase&#8217; sites, may (if they are really, really lucky) end up having one of their participants &#8216;discovered&#8217; by the likes of a Carson Daly or reach a level of fame like William Hung.  Of course, for that to happen, the law of large numbers comes into play.  How many millions of viewers were introduced to William Hung because they were watching the Idol competition?  How many millions of unique users posted to YouTube before Brooke Brodack was discovered?  At least kSolo has 70+ million uniques to work with.</p>
<p>In my view, the bottom line is this.  Without quality content, whether content provided by traditional media, or a well produced show like American Idol, you won&#8217;t get the users.  No users, no virtuous cycle of content creation.  No content or users, no advertisers.  What then, Bix?  Will you be an online &#8216;competition engine&#8217; for traditional media companies?  Sorry, Fox already bought kSolo.  Next idea.</p>
<p>And speaking of YouTube, why exactly can&#8217;t they do this?  I certainly hope that Bix hasn&#8217;t drank the Kool-Aid to believe that their technology gives them an advantage&#8230;</p>
<p>Ah, the folly of Web 2.0.  My bet &#8211; Bix will be like William Hung &#8211; a side show that fades from our collective consciousness after the season ends, or at least until the venture money runs dry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Speiser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/07/17/bix-sees-green-in-online-contests/comment-page-1/#comment-102929</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Speiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron,

We are conducting an invite-only beta right now -- we will absolutely pull the registration requirement down for viewers once we have finished our beta test.  

Take care,
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron,</p>
<p>We are conducting an invite-only beta right now &#8212; we will absolutely pull the registration requirement down for viewers once we have finished our beta test.  </p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Mike</p>
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