July 10, 2006

Kool IM Launches to Battle Meebo

Michael Arrington

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Michigan based Kool IM, an Ajax web chat service that compares to Meebo and eBuddy, launched today.

These services are very popular, particularly with employees and students who are unable to download and use normal IM clients on their computers.

Kool IM takes features from both Meebo and eBuddy. Like eBuddy, Kool IM does chat through a browser pop up window (Meebe embeds it on the page, although it can be dragged). I prefer the Meebo approach, but it’s a matter of personal preference. Kool IM also allows (but does not require) users to create accounts, so future logins to multiple IM services do not require separate logins to each service. Meebo has this feature, eBuddy does not (but says they will soon).

In addition to Silicon Valley based Meebo and Amsterdam based eBuddy, ILoveIM, Germany based Mabber and other competitors are out there vying for the same user base. Luckily, users tend to rack up a lot of time (if not page views) with the service, allowing the companies to generate reasonable revenue from advertising - eBuddy claims to be profitable.

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  1. Jeremy Lucier

    Quite interesting. I currently prefer Meebo because the atmosphere is very friendly. There’s good vibes coming from KoolIM, and I would contemplate using it if I saw a privacy policy somewhere. I’m scared to hand out any of my user info to a source without one ;)

    Also, the buddylist window pops up if you haven’t entered any data into any of the fields. - My bug report of the day.

    Keep it going guys, looking great.

  2. Scott R.

    Sure, it’s a pain, but cross compatibility isn’t that hard to do.

    Client kept getting “unexpected errors” with Safari.

    Meebo sticks with the KISS policy (Keep It Simple, Stupid), since most browsers attempt to block popups nowadays and most support tabbed browsing, who on earth would use a popup window for an IM client when you could just switch tabs?

    Guess it’s my personal preference too :)

    But hey, at least there is competition going on, at least all these startups aren’t merging like the cell phone corporations.

  3. vucabei

    Where in Michigan are they based? I didn’t know there were tech companies in Michigan that weren’t completely centered around the auto industry.

  4. Michael Arrington

    vacubei - in beautiful Dearborn. :-)

  5. Gopi

    Finally a michigan web 2.0 company :)

  6. Robert Dewey

    vacubei - Watch yourself, us Michiganders are making a strong comeback! LOL

    Michael - Beautiful Dearborn? Blahhhh….

    Rob from Rochester, MI (near Dearborn)

  7. Ebrahim

    I like this better than Meebo. Works perfect in Flock, err, Firefox. ;)

  8. Sasha

    Of course it will work better in non standard browsers. It is a pop-up not part of the webpage. Most browsers also block pop-ups. For every user that uses a non-standard browser they’ll lose 10 who won’t be able to see anything because of the pop-up blocker.

  9. Samer Bazzi

    Greetings Everyone, Thank you for the feedback,

    ———————

    Jeremy,

    Thank you for the feedback, we thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback,

    We are working on a privacy policy and terms of use and it should be up on the site very soon.

    The Buddy list window opens up because even if you did not type anything, you can click the log-in button to login from the popup window.

    Thank You very much for the feedback, we will work very hard to understand what the community expects and adjust from there.

    ———————

    Scott,

    We support IE, Firefox and Opera, can you send us the error you go on Firefox? We can enable debugging to get the specific error for safari, version number and other info would be very helpful.

    We also try to stick with the KISS idea, it’s very important for us to keep it really simple and clean.

    About pop-ups, we are working on an embedded version, which is set for the next release :) is already in the works, we sent this version out to get feedback from the community and adjust to what users expect.

    Thank you very much for your help.

    ———————

    vucabei,

    We are Michigan based :) located around 200 yards away from Ford headquarters.

    We know that Michigan is traditionally an auto industry driven state but that is really starting to dissipate and others like us are starting to really spur up.

    ———————

    Gopi,

    Yes, I don’t know of any other web 2.0 based Michigan companies, there may be a few here hiding :).

    ———————

    Robert,

    owwwwww, be nice :) I have friends living in Rochester :) it’s a very nice city, well its not that bad 

    ———————

    Ebrahim

    Thank You for your feedback, we also work fine in Firefox.

    ———————

    Sasha,

    We are working on an embedded version, we prefer a popup because it is friendlier for users who multi-task, rather than opening an entire browser and checking back and forth for new IMS, we are also working on an embedded version in the background, look out for that coming in the next release hopefully :).

    ———————

    Michael,

    It looks like you have it running on Mac, is that via firefox?

    Thank You all very much.

    -Samer

  10. Jorn

    Hey,

    I’m getting a lot of javascript errors. I really prefer the eBuddy way in which they use tabbed chatting. I think you have a lot more work to do if you really want to even try to compete with eBuddy or Meebo. Try to work on your widgets too. nevertheless, keep up the work!

  11. mos

    To sum up:that is one ugly-ass site.

    Wake me up when we’re outta the ’90’s again, kthx.

  12. Sam Davyson

    Meebe -> Meebo.

    I like the look of the sign in page. It looks way nicer that Meebo in that respect. But I can’t stand the pop up stuff… AJAX is much cooler/better for this kind of thing.

  13. Samer Bazzi

    Please report all issues and they will be fixed asap, we are gathering excellent feedback, we also have extensively tested with IE, Firefox, Opera and Safari, there are some known issues via Opera which we are aware of, for those who wouold prefer embedded IM, that is already in the works.

    Thank You - Samer

  14. Samer Bazzi

    mos, the site is entirely AJAX driven :)

    The only difference between koolim and meebo is that meebo is embedded and koolim is in a popup, thats pretty much it.

    Remmeber, this is the first day that this has been out, note that meebo and others did not even have “add buddy” when they initially launched :)

    Thank You very much.

    -Samer

  15. Sasha

    You wanna see something cool that does not even need a browser?

    We have a little ditty that lets you chat from your Yahoo messenger with AOL buddies. Or you can chat with MSN users using ICQ or GTalk. No browser or registration requried.

    It’s called a “Universal IM”

  16. Max

    I don’t like this service at all. Meebo is a lot better and smoother imo. This service pops up a new window each time you want to IM someone and the buddy list also has it’s own pop-up. That’s annoying. With Meebo, everything is in one tab in Firefox and I don’t have windows all over the place. If Kool IM gave the option of having everything in one window, that would be a lot better.

  17. Jeremy Lucier

    Thanks for the quick response Samer!

    You guys have a great service, and are really quick with reponses (love it).

    I’ll try it out later tonight. :)

  18. Travis

    I want a web IM client that let’s me assign my own domain name to the service, so that it shows up in the web filter logs as “work-related-stuff.com”.

    Yeah, that’s the ticket.

  19. John Rennie

    Kool Im is really coooool. The interface is pretty good and now I can chat on MSN,Yahoo and Gmail using just one window. It looks better than Meebo

  20. Tushar

    Kool IM is a great service for people like me who are experts in chatting. There will be no need to clutter my system tray with too may IM clients now.
    Nice service…..

  21. Robert Dewey

    You guys at Kool IM really understand the concept of independency. The thing I don’t like about Meebo is that it takes up the entire browser screen.

    I’m liking it.

  22. Robin Majumdar

    I’m liking it.

    I like the positive and proactive vibe in their blog and forums.

    I like the clean, fast-loading and cross-browser compliant interface of their site - that is definitely not 90s coding or design as mentioned above by another commenter.

    Kudos to the Kool IM team.

    One suggestion, now that the Privacy Policy and TOS have been published. Make the home page (where the logins are) SSL encrypted. Not comfy sending credentials in clear text…

    Robin

  23. amanda

    Yay, i can now use messenger at school again, kudos to koolim!

  24. girish

    hi my company has blocked koolim can i get some aternative links for it ..thanks.

  25. stefan

    works great in my company, i hope they dont block it. thanx koolim

  26. Herold

    very kool app.

  27. Scott

    promosing, i wil stick with meebo now, but will consider moving over when its more feature rich and stable.

  28. duke

    Lovely service and a good start.Keep it up!

  29. Samer Bazzi

    Thank You very much duke.

    You have been extremly helpful.

    -Samer

  30. samuel

    i love this application!

  31. Hann

    i love it, even works in my company!

  32. Jess

    so koolim people, when is the new version coming.

  33. John

    Nice work, meebo is still ahead, but seems like the koolim people have a good start.

  34. queenie

    nothing compare to meebo, people love meebo ! koolim just copy someone else work e.g. the look and feel from http://www.imunitive.com (see their userguide with the screen http://www.imunitive.com/gimuserguide.html), i like both meebo and imunitive, they both can remember my setting, now i stay on immunitive because they not only remember my account setting, but also provide their own account - GIM user without msn, yahoo and aim account binding.

  35. Jesse

    They do look similiar, but the functionality is very much different, imunitive is slow and clunky while meebo and koolim are very fasy and responsive, meebo and koolim seem to use ajax while imunitive does not, imunitive does not work 80% of the time while meebo and koolim usually always work.

    I would have to say i like them all but obviously meebo is the leader, than e-messenger, and than comes koolim or iloveim and than imunitive.

    I would not worry to much about a GUI, they usually are very similiar, its an instant messaging app, what else do you expect?

  36. allen

    I would have to agree with jesse.

  37. bob

    meebo is nicer at this stage.

  38. hammer

    i like ebuddy, i think koolim has a chance if they add more features.

  39. Robin Majumdar

    and now… blocked at most corporate sites I have visited recently… alas. :) (Most use WebSense to filter at the outbound gateway…)

  40. hammer

    works here Robin :)

  41. Mano

    works here in the office also, thank you koolim people.

  42. Amber

    add features meebo has and you guys will have a chance.

  43. diana

    i think that Koolim is getting there and its a wonderful site!

  44. Danish

    univ. blocked meebo so koolim works for now. thanks.

  45. Dirvon

    nice work.

  46. Justin

    to bad meebo is blocked here, koolim works!

  47. rocks

    i like it, goood work, seems like the updates on thier site are not really coming, anyway, works fine.

  48. jeff

    I strongly recommend the imhaha.com website, all the messages are encrypted with https so network administrator will not be able to watch what you are chatting. And because of that, my school does not block it so far.

    https://www.imhaha.com

  49. Dan

    Jeff sounds like he is from imhaha, its scary because its a site outside the USA and God only knows what is happening with our logins, i am going to have to pass, sorry Jeff.

    koolim, meebo and ebuddy are more trusted sites at this point.

  50. anton

    this is a great addition to my bookmarks, keep up the great work!.

  51. mo

    I think that Kool IM is better and works great.

  52. Jeff

    Hi, Dan:

    >>Jeff sounds like he is from imhaha,

    I am not from IMHaha,

    >>its scary because its a site outside the USA

    The site is right in Silicon Valley, go check their introduction and check their domain registration information.

  53. Dan

    ok and ok, seems foriegn, nothing wrong with a site outrside the usa, just that laws inthe usa protect us better if anything was to happen.

  54. anton

    i still agree that meebo and koolim are the best when it comes to web IM, others such as radius and wablet try to do way to much for a simple task.

  55. Justin

    i would have to agree, its hard to really trust outsiders with my hotmail address or my gmail address, they could log-in and see very detailed information which is sent to my email from my financial institutions and others.

  56. Drew

    Nice work, i find this popup style very convient.

  57. Adam

    I agree, i like popup mode better, i only talk to 3-4 people anyway, so having 4 windows open is not a big problem for me.

  58. Jack

    i agree, i have been using koolim after meebo got blocked here, works pretty good for what i need which is basically a very basic web IM app which is quick and simple.

  59. Adam

    i Agree with jack.

  60. Dirk

    I agree also.

  61. Dirk

    a good list of alternatives if you get blocked:

    http://www.scipo.com
    http://www.scipo.net

    or

    http://www.yourname.scipo.com ( or net)

    or

    http://www.IMhaha.net
    http://www.koolIM.us
    http://www.e-buddy.us
    http://www.e-messenger.us
    http://www.outlookmessenger.info
    http://www.imunitive.co.uk

  62. Helen

    i think techcrunch needs to be careful with the porn links and problems which can link up here on the site.

  63. Helen

    i tried koolim, neat little web app.

  64. Dirk

    Im a big koolim.com fan also.

  65. derek

    I prefer to use Kool IM instead of Meebo.

  66. duke

    Dear HELEN ( or whatever your REAL name is …probably start with S…. or J… :) ),

    The alternatives posted before have nothing to do with porn..EVER.
    ( anyway thanks for the free publicity…traffic went wild lately…probably because your post ).

    The only mistake about that alternatives list is that one of the links is http://www.outlookexpress.info NOT outlookmessenger.info

    Thanks,
    D.

  67. Bob

    I am an eBuddy fan: they have a tab mode so it doesn’t take that much space when I am working. I like it that they have an interface and emoticons similar to MSN/YAHOO/AIM.

  68. Jim

    I agree with bob, ebuddy is the most polished web based IM service

  69. Josh

    I agree with bob, ebuddy is the most polished web based IM service

  70. Maria

    Haha, yea the Kool IM logo is stupid besides their service times out on me.
    I think I’ll stick to eBuddy.

  71. Jason

    I love the app, i just wish it was faster and more stable, hopefully it will get there one day.

  72. Samer Bazzi

    we have just added a second server, so anyone who had problem with slow results, please visit and it should be much faster now.

    also working on a major new release,

    thank you for your support.

    -Samer

  73. Jason

    thx samer, woks faster now.

  74. Andrew

    does work much faster, finally! ruuuur.

  75. seth

    hey all - noticed a bunch of you are having issues with meebo being blocked. a number of folks were using proxies to access meebo (potentially dangerous), so we created the meebo repeater. it should let you get to meebo from anywhere :) here’s the address to get it: http://blog.meebo.com/?page_id=140

  76. Jack

    thx seth, works for me, but at school, we are not allowed to really download apps.

  77. Jack

    koolim is still better because of the more traditional IM interface, meebo is still nice of course.

  78. oscar

    nice app, i like both meebo and koolim.

  79. oscar

    also meebo is already blocked here, seems like most of my friends knew about it without telling me :(

  80. lynne

    Hi ppls

    my name is lynne

    and i have been upset for a while because meebo has been blocked for ages
    so if anyone knows any meebosites plz email me on 289652cggs.act.edu.au
    ta luv lynne

  81. Dan

    lynne, check out koolim.com

  82. David

    hey emily, talk to me on koolim.

  83. ming

    do koolim people support QQ?

  84. Samer Bazzi

    QQ is not supported yet, it is however it testing so look for it in the next release :)

  85. Shaqo

    QQ would be good.

  86. Stefan

    I am happy for this, meebo is blocked and now i see kool im

  87. Stefan

    also beautiful website techcrunch.

  88. Roma

    http://www.communicationtube.net/ - web-client for the popular IM (internet messaging) networks which currently supports ICQ, MSN Messenger and Google Talk.

  89. Bill

    Roma, nice app. dont think it is even close to the others written about on this site like meebo, koolim, ebuddy, etc.

  90. Justin

    its a neat app, works good as meebo is blocked here :)

  91. Justin

    also meebo is a bit better, but i have no choice.

  92. Michelle

    very nice, koolim rocks.

  93. Rob

    I don’t like koolim.com ….. it’s just not good… really.

  94. Dave

    its not bad, they need to fix the bugs and frequest disconnects, i like meebo better for now because they do not require a popup as i use firefox and meebo just sits in its own tab.

    we will see what they do next, if they fix the bugs, make it more stable and make some in browser version, i think they will be fine because most companies are blocking meebo and others.

  95. Jennifer

    I agree with Dave.

  96. Jennifer

    i use to use koolim.com but now back to ebuddy until they fix thier bugs.

  97. Samer Bazzi

    we have just launched a new version, please have a look at it.

  98. Billy

    Great product.

  99. Markus

    check out koolim, it rocks.

  100. Markus

    meebo is also kool