Comments on: Google does Shakespeare http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:54:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Jarrett House North » Blog Archive » Google Books: Showing value but playing catch-up http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-2233178 Jarrett House North » Blog Archive » Google Books: Showing value but playing catch-up Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:41:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-2233178 [...] more visible, starting with the complete plays of Shakespeare, is a smart one; it provides some much needed visible value with which it can back up its arguments in favor of opt-out indexing, as Michael Arrington at [...] [...] more visible, starting with the complete plays of Shakespeare, is a smart one; it provides some much needed visible value with which it can back up its arguments in favor of opt-out indexing, as Michael Arrington at [...]

]]> By: andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-994648 andrew Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:58:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-994648 hi! i have a good audio systems on my website http://car-audio.org.md hi!
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]]> By: Tom Jackson http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-619259 Tom Jackson Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:48:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-619259 Now this is really neat - publishing literary works out of copyright and allowing the user to download and print as they wish. I'm amazed no-one has beaten Google to this one - or maybe they have and their efforts have been forgotten whn the big players moved in. Now this is really neat - publishing literary works out of copyright and allowing the user to download and print as they wish. I’m amazed no-one has beaten Google to this one - or maybe they have and their efforts have been forgotten whn the big players moved in.

]]> By: mcclain http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-72738 mcclain Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:08:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-72738 i just read that mlk's entire personal writings are for auction at sotheby's. google should buy them and do this. for real i just read that mlk’s entire personal writings are for auction at sotheby’s. google should buy them and do this. for real

]]> By: Steven Frein http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-72415 Steven Frein Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:03:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-72415 The debate about google's library project is compelling and may shape the idea's of fair use in a digital age. I recorded the debate at the Los Angeles Library on Monday. I should have the audio up by tommorrow. Check out the debate hosted by wired: http://sfadayinthelife.blogspot.com The debate about google’s library project is compelling and may shape the idea’s of fair use in a digital age. I recorded the debate at the Los Angeles Library on Monday. I should have the audio up by tommorrow.

Check out the debate hosted by wired:

http://sfadayinthelife.blogspot.com

]]> By: Tom Maddox http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-72099 Tom Maddox Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:15:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-72099 I had hoped and imagined that Google Book Search--whose goals I entirely support--would do something really cool with a Shakespeare page. Instead we get odd, random editions of the plays, or a choice of "all editions," which throws the kitchen sink at the reader, or, more exactly, assorted and incomplete parts of a whole bunch of sinks. I also don't understand why they didn't include the poems. I can't imagine this page being much help to casual readers, who will almost certainly need help. And a well-informed reader of Shakespeare will find other, much better done sites. In short, apart from its being a marketing stunt, what is it for? One final thing: it may be that the limitations imposed on Google Book Search are so overly restrictive that they don't allow for a decent topic- or author-focused search page. If that's the case, that's really too bad. I had hoped and imagined that Google Book Search–whose goals I entirely support–would do something really cool with a Shakespeare page.

Instead we get odd, random editions of the plays, or a choice of “all editions,” which throws the kitchen sink at the reader, or, more exactly, assorted and incomplete parts of a whole bunch of sinks. I also don’t understand why they didn’t include the poems.

I can’t imagine this page being much help to casual readers, who will almost certainly need help. And a well-informed reader of Shakespeare will find other, much better done sites.

In short, apart from its being a marketing stunt, what is it for?

One final thing: it may be that the limitations imposed on Google Book Search are so overly restrictive that they don’t allow for a decent topic- or author-focused search page. If that’s the case, that’s really too bad.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Google Book Searchにシェークスピア http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71887 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Google Book Searchにシェークスピア Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:38:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71887 [...] [原文へ] Google Booksearch [...] [...] [原文へ] Google Booksearch [...]

]]> By: Between the Spaces » Blog Archive » Shakespeare on Google http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71694 Between the Spaces » Blog Archive » Shakespeare on Google Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:38:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71694 [...] Despite the debate raging over Google’s indexing of copyrighted material, I personally believe that it should be maintained!  It seems that, according to Techcrunch, Microsoft’s Live will be releasing a similar service.  The difference will be, instead of an opt-out service, allowing authors and publishers to remove their copyrighten books from the indexing service, Microsoft will be incorporating an opt-in service. [...] [...] Despite the debate raging over Google’s indexing of copyrighted material, I personally believe that it should be maintained!  It seems that, according to Techcrunch, Microsoft’s Live will be releasing a similar service.  The difference will be, instead of an opt-out service, allowing authors and publishers to remove their copyrighten books from the indexing service, Microsoft will be incorporating an opt-in service. [...]

]]> By: blog.ftofani.com » Google Books e Shakespeare http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71609 blog.ftofani.com » Google Books e Shakespeare Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:05:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71609 [...] Links: Google Books Shakespeare, Google Books Search, Techcrunch fala sobre o assunto [...] [...] Links: Google Books Shakespeare, Google Books Search, Techcrunch fala sobre o assunto [...]

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71606 Marshall Kirkpatrick Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:04:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71606 Mike has said that he plans to write a post about me and my new role here soon (looks like it needs to come sooner than later!), but as he wrote in the one year anniversary post "More recently, Marshall Kirkpatrick has joined and will be taking a big part of the writing load off of my back (more on that in a future post)." The short answer is that I am a blogger and consultant who lives in Oregon. When I move to Portland, Oregon in a few weeks I'll post here about a Portland get together, I'll see if I can get Mike to come and we'll make it a TechCrunch party. My prior gig was writing the Social Software Weblog at Weblogs Inc. I also do interviews with tech and nonprofit Web 2.0-style innovators for the SF-based nonprofit tech assistance project NetSquared.org. My personal blog is Marshallk.com. The Web 2.0 topic closest to my heart is RSS, in case you were wondering. I'll get on Mike today to write a post about me! Mike has said that he plans to write a post about me and my new role here soon (looks like it needs to come sooner than later!), but as he wrote in the one year anniversary post “More recently, Marshall Kirkpatrick has joined and will be taking a big part of the writing load off of my back (more on that in a future post).”

The short answer is that I am a blogger and consultant who lives in Oregon. When I move to Portland, Oregon in a few weeks I’ll post here about a Portland get together, I’ll see if I can get Mike to come and we’ll make it a TechCrunch party.

My prior gig was writing the Social Software Weblog at Weblogs Inc. I also do interviews with tech and nonprofit Web 2.0-style innovators for the SF-based nonprofit tech assistance project NetSquared.org. My personal blog is Marshallk.com. The Web 2.0 topic closest to my heart is RSS, in case you were wondering. I’ll get on Mike today to write a post about me!

]]> By: other http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71594 other Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:50:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71594 "Hi Sam, more on that in a bit :)" what does that mean? just tell us... “Hi Sam, more on that in a bit :)”

what does that mean? just tell us…

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71593 Marshall Kirkpatrick Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:49:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71593 Hi Sam, more on that in a bit :) Hi Sam, more on that in a bit :)

]]> By: Sam Kahler http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71592 Sam Kahler Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:47:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71592 Who is Marshall Kirkpatrick? Who is Marshall Kirkpatrick?

]]> By: Kenneth Jr http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71575 Kenneth Jr Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:29:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71575 [sarcasm] Wow, this tool is incredibly novel and useful. Where else could I find the collected works of William Shakespeare. I am shocked that no other website has bothered to tackle this immense problem. Google really is finding new uses for the internet. [/sarcasm] <a href="http://gutenberg.org" rel="nofollow">Project Gutenberg</a> [sarcasm] Wow, this tool is incredibly novel and useful. Where else could I find the collected works of William Shakespeare. I am shocked that no other website has bothered to tackle this immense problem. Google really is finding new uses for the internet. [/sarcasm]

Project Gutenberg

]]> By: Darren McLaughlin http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71546 Darren McLaughlin Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:59:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71546 Much slicker than most of what I've seen from Google lately. It does represent a sort of progress, despite their mercenary capitalist intent :) Much slicker than most of what I’ve seen from Google lately. It does represent a sort of progress, despite their mercenary capitalist intent :)

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71540 Marshall Kirkpatrick Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:54:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71540 Danny - thanks for the details. LA- thanks for pointing out the work of librarians in this. Librarians totally deserve as much credit as they can get in this world. RH - I think that's very possible. Information overload is such that I imagine there will be countless new trades emerging for people especially skilled at dealing with it. Your idea is an interesting one! Danny - thanks for the details.

LA- thanks for pointing out the work of librarians in this. Librarians totally deserve as much credit as they can get in this world.

RH - I think that’s very possible. Information overload is such that I imagine there will be countless new trades emerging for people especially skilled at dealing with it. Your idea is an interesting one!

]]> By: Don Wilson http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71536 Don Wilson Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:52:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71536 It doesn't really matter what use it has, just that it's freely available like this from a reliable provider is what we need. Very cool. It doesn’t really matter what use it has, just that it’s freely available like this from a reliable provider is what we need. Very cool.

]]> By: simon http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71494 simon Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:31:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71494 For students this is cool. Imagine you've got an exam tomorrow and you left your book at school. Or you need to find a quote, and its surrounding text. simple. What would be interesting to do would be develop a web 2.0 app that scans students work (using google print, for free) to find plagiarism. In response to the concerns about copyright etc. I bet Google are glad they didn't do an online archive of music cd's. Imagine the court cases. For students this is cool. Imagine you’ve got an exam tomorrow and you left your book at school. Or you need to find a quote, and its surrounding text. simple.
What would be interesting to do would be develop a web 2.0 app that scans students work (using google print, for free) to find plagiarism.

In response to the concerns about copyright etc. I bet Google are glad they didn’t do an online archive of music cd’s. Imagine the court cases.

]]> By: RH http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71472 RH Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:00:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71472 A very interesting way to present existing Google information resources in service to a particular kind of content. Should we now expect a mini-profession of Google content organizers - rogue librarians and scholars? - to spring up in order to receive ongoing mini-commissions (based on topic-related advert, etc. follow-up) as a result of their topic assembly and subsequent enrichment? A very interesting way to present existing Google information resources in service to a particular kind of content. Should we now expect a mini-profession of Google content organizers - rogue librarians and scholars? - to spring up in order to receive ongoing mini-commissions (based on topic-related advert, etc. follow-up) as a result of their topic assembly and subsequent enrichment?

]]> By: Life On the Wicked Stage: Act 2 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71393 Life On the Wicked Stage: Act 2 Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:27:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71393 <strong>Words, Words, Words, Google Does Shakespeare...</strong> When I first heard of the Google Books venture awhile back, it didn't take much imagination to think that this would occur. Google has created a landing page aggregating the complete works of William Shakespeare. Now, the Google Books venture... Words, Words, Words, Google Does Shakespeare…

When I first heard of the Google Books venture awhile back, it didn’t take much imagination to think that this would occur. Google has created a landing page aggregating the complete works of William Shakespeare. Now, the Google Books venture…

]]> By: basu http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71328 basu Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:09:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71328 I really don't think that books in electronic will really get too big an audience unless someone comes up with a cheap and simple e-book reader which is as simple to use as a real book (and small enough for you to snuggle up in bed with). I really don’t think that books in electronic will really get too big an audience unless someone comes up with a cheap and simple e-book reader which is as simple to use as a real book (and small enough for you to snuggle up in bed with).

]]> By: KO http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71279 KO Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:06:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71279 Nice, but useless. You can't download any of the books - you can only read them on the google website. They're not even in text! Nice, but useless. You can’t download any of the books - you can only read them on the google website. They’re not even in text!

]]> By: Matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71242 Matt Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:03:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71242 "Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall" “Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall”

]]> By: Danny Sullivan http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71236 Danny Sullivan Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:54:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71236 To be clear, Google operates two systems. The Google Book Search publisher program is entirely opt-in. Rights holders submit books and decide how much they want to show. That's been non-controversial. The Google Book Search library program is the controversial portion, where books are scanned for indexing, but as you say, no full text display is done unless publishers specifically opt-in. To be clear, Google operates two systems. The Google Book Search publisher program is entirely opt-in. Rights holders submit books and decide how much they want to show. That’s been non-controversial. The Google Book Search library program is the controversial portion, where books are scanned for indexing, but as you say, no full text display is done unless publishers specifically opt-in.

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71220 Marshall Kirkpatrick Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:14:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/06/13/google-does-shakespeare/#comment-71220 h, thanks and good point. more sophisticated offerings would be interesting, but I think things like this could get a lot of use in large part because of its simplicity. h, thanks and good point. more sophisticated offerings would be interesting, but I think things like this could get a lot of use in large part because of its simplicity.

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