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	<title>Comments on: eBay Bans Rapleaf Links</title>
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		<title>By: GNR - the guys behind .name &#124; TechWinter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-2436666</link>
		<dc:creator>GNR - the guys behind .name &#124; TechWinter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rapleaf is a startup that is focusing on &#8216;reputation management&#8217; in a very eBay-ish way. In fact eBay is so unhappy about Rapleaf that they recently made the effort to ban them from their website. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rapleaf is a startup that is focusing on &#8216;reputation management&#8217; in a very eBay-ish way. In fact eBay is so unhappy about Rapleaf that they recently made the effort to ban them from their website. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Loosing Site</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-1968225</link>
		<dc:creator>Loosing Site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;eBay&#8217;s Dilemma...&lt;/strong&gt;

While any system can be gamed, it&#8217;s the processes and networks within and around the system that limit the extent of the abuse.
......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>eBay&#8217;s Dilemma&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>While any system can be gamed, it&#8217;s the processes and networks within and around the system that limit the extent of the abuse.<br />
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		<title>By: Aaron Schiff's website &#187; Port my reputation</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-1857728</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Schiff's website &#187; Port my reputation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] auction sites, or use third-party reputation systems to manage their reputation on eBay (see here, for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] auction sites, or use third-party reputation systems to manage their reputation on eBay (see here, for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stalk Your Contact List with UpScoop</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-1555625</link>
		<dc:creator>techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stalk Your Contact List with UpScoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the reputation network Rapleaf is releasing a new service called Upscoop, which joins a number of startups (see ProfileLinker and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the reputation network Rapleaf is releasing a new service called Upscoop, which joins a number of startups (see ProfileLinker and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Year Later: The Companies I Wanted To Profile (but didn’t exist)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-682371</link>
		<dc:creator>A Year Later: The Companies I Wanted To Profile (but didn’t exist)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rapleaf launched in April. And while it&#8217;s still quite early, it does exactly what we need it to do - provide a good off-ebay reputation system. eBay banned Rapleaf in May (They learned their lesson with PayPal it seems), but the company is still chugging along. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rapleaf launched in April. And while it&#8217;s still quite early, it does exactly what we need it to do - provide a good off-ebay reputation system. eBay banned Rapleaf in May (They learned their lesson with PayPal it seems), but the company is still chugging along. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gadgets.multiplayer.ro &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Year Later: The Companies I Wanted To Profile (but didn’t exist)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-599236</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadgets.multiplayer.ro &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Year Later: The Companies I Wanted To Profile (but didn’t exist)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rapleaf launched in April. And while it’s still quite early, it does exactly what we need it to do - provide a good off-ebay reputation system. eBay banned Rapleaf in May (They learned their lesson with PayPal it seems), but the company is still chugging along. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rapleaf launched in April. And while it’s still quite early, it does exactly what we need it to do - provide a good off-ebay reputation system. eBay banned Rapleaf in May (They learned their lesson with PayPal it seems), but the company is still chugging along. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: scottlee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-264761</link>
		<dc:creator>scottlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don't think so</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think so</p>
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		<title>By: Dead 2.0 Interview with Rapleaf at The Gong Show</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-186161</link>
		<dc:creator>Dead 2.0 Interview with Rapleaf at The Gong Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have been an avid reader of Dead 2.0 ever since Scoble&#8217;s first link. I like the way he (or she) attempts to cut through the crap, and he has a sharp, quick-witted writing style. Unfortunately, in his recent interview with Rapleaf CEO Auren Hoffman, Dead 2.0 misses the most important and hard-hitting question in my mind: what&#8217;s Rapleaf&#8217;s response to the eBay ban? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have been an avid reader of Dead 2.0 ever since Scoble&#8217;s first link. I like the way he (or she) attempts to cut through the crap, and he has a sharp, quick-witted writing style. Unfortunately, in his recent interview with Rapleaf CEO Auren Hoffman, Dead 2.0 misses the most important and hard-hitting question in my mind: what&#8217;s Rapleaf&#8217;s response to the eBay ban? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B. Hartzog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eBay Takes Control</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-144402</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul B. Hartzog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eBay Takes Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Third-party monitoring is just another instance of the peer-to-peer meme, so it came as no surprise that a third-party reputation management system, RapLeaf, emerged for eBay. What did come as a surprise is that eBay not only rejected the system, but actively prevents people from using it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Third-party monitoring is just another instance of the peer-to-peer meme, so it came as no surprise that a third-party reputation management system, RapLeaf, emerged for eBay. What did come as a surprise is that eBay not only rejected the system, but actively prevents people from using it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-102502</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom (#16) "he is pretty loathe to do anything that is not basically his idea/his baby".  Maybe true, except Craig and Auren (Rapleaf founder) are buddies and have known each other since the first dotcom era...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom (#16) &#8220;he is pretty loathe to do anything that is not basically his idea/his baby&#8221;.  Maybe true, except Craig and Auren (Rapleaf founder) are buddies and have known each other since the first dotcom era&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Oliver: Entrepreneur, Interim CIO, Technology COO, Strategist, &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eBay doesn&#8217;t sell openness</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-97738</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Oliver: Entrepreneur, Interim CIO, Technology COO, Strategist, &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eBay doesn&#8217;t sell openness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unforatunately, eBay has decided to ban the use of Rapleaf from it&#8217;s auctions, thus erecting a vitural firewall around it&#8217;s own reputation system. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unforatunately, eBay has decided to ban the use of Rapleaf from it&#8217;s auctions, thus erecting a vitural firewall around it&#8217;s own reputation system. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechEffect</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-93321</link>
		<dc:creator>TechEffect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Closing off eBay...&lt;/strong&gt;

Google Checkout was dubbed the "PayPal killer" long before it was released. Upon its release, pretty much everyone realized that's not what the service was designed to be. An alternative to PayPal (eBay's e-payment powerhouse), yes, a "killer" no...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Closing off eBay&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Google Checkout was dubbed the &#8220;PayPal killer&#8221; long before it was released. Upon its release, pretty much everyone realized that&#8217;s not what the service was designed to be. An alternative to PayPal (eBay&#8217;s e-payment powerhouse), yes, a &#8220;killer&#8221; no&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SortiPreneur</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-86461</link>
		<dc:creator>SortiPreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Efficiency-inducing Parasites...&lt;/strong&gt;

Baris has an interesting post about Jonathan Miller's declaration that AOL will aim to be more third-party friendly, and the contrast this declaration has with a few recent developments, including: eBay's banning of RapLeaf MySpace's banning of Sing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Efficiency-inducing Parasites&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Baris has an interesting post about Jonathan Miller&#8217;s declaration that AOL will aim to be more third-party friendly, and the contrast this declaration has with a few recent developments, including: eBay&#8217;s banning of RapLeaf MySpace&#8217;s banning of Sing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-79442</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally this was expected. It's expected in the same way I expect to get pulled over for speeding if I blow past a cop doing 20mph over the speed limit.

Speed limits are rarely enforced in my state. This is because they can't afford to put a cop on every corner to watch for speeders. But you can be sure that if you are caught speeding, the law will be enforced on you.

Though it's quite possible (and probable) that eBay is specifically targeting listings containing RapLeaf links, in the end having RapLeaf links in your listing is a clear violation of their (what I consider to be easy to understand) links policy.

As for the DigIt.com listing. I didn't see any violation there -- aside from the inconspicuous link to koove.com. I would compare that to going 5mph over the speed limit: Not worth a cop's time (unless you're driving through a college campus where the over eager campus police are looking for any excuse to nab you... and I can attest that there are eBay employees with this same attitude, but they have to catch you in the act first.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally this was expected. It&#8217;s expected in the same way I expect to get pulled over for speeding if I blow past a cop doing 20mph over the speed limit.</p>
<p>Speed limits are rarely enforced in my state. This is because they can&#8217;t afford to put a cop on every corner to watch for speeders. But you can be sure that if you are caught speeding, the law will be enforced on you.</p>
<p>Though it&#8217;s quite possible (and probable) that eBay is specifically targeting listings containing RapLeaf links, in the end having RapLeaf links in your listing is a clear violation of their (what I consider to be easy to understand) links policy.</p>
<p>As for the DigIt.com listing. I didn&#8217;t see any violation there &#8212; aside from the inconspicuous link to koove.com. I would compare that to going 5mph over the speed limit: Not worth a cop&#8217;s time (unless you&#8217;re driving through a college campus where the over eager campus police are looking for any excuse to nab you&#8230; and I can attest that there are eBay employees with this same attitude, but they have to catch you in the act first.)</p>
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		<title>By: Technological Winter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GNR - the guys behind .name</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-51623</link>
		<dc:creator>Technological Winter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GNR - the guys behind .name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 14:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rapleaf is a startup that is focusing on &#8216;reputation management&#8217; in a very eBay-ish way.  In fact eBay is so unhappy about Rapleaf that they recently made the effort to ban them from their website. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rapleaf is a startup that is focusing on &#8216;reputation management&#8217; in a very eBay-ish way.  In fact eBay is so unhappy about Rapleaf that they recently made the effort to ban them from their website. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 刻录事 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ebay对开放作战：rapleaf</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-50842</link>
		<dc:creator>刻录事 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ebay对开放作战：rapleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-50842</guid>
		<description>[...] 只说在“Mashup警戒线”中提到“ebay禁止rapleaf的消息”。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 只说在“Mashup警戒线”中提到“ebay禁止rapleaf的消息”。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 3pointD.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-50837</link>
		<dc:creator>3pointD.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;eBay vs. Rapleaf...&lt;/strong&gt;

A few days old, but worth flagging: Michael Arrington posts the news that eBay has begun banning selective links to users&#8217; reputation profiles on Rapleaf. I point it out mostly because I&#8217;m interested in reputation solutions for virtual spac...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>eBay vs. Rapleaf&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A few days old, but worth flagging: Michael Arrington posts the news that eBay has begun banning selective links to users&#8217; reputation profiles on Rapleaf. I point it out mostly because I&#8217;m interested in reputation solutions for virtual spac&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Maddox</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-50481</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Maddox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 01:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note to say that I've posted an interview with Bill Washburn, Executive V-P for Business Development at Opinity, discussing eBay's decision to ban postings linking to RapLeaf reputation profiles. (Note: RapLeaf is a partner of Opinity's.)

We begin by talking about this development but move on to talk about the particular importance of reputation online and how eBay factors in.

You can find the podcast at http://blog.opinity.com/2006/05/ebay_rapleaf_an.html.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note to say that I&#8217;ve posted an interview with Bill Washburn, Executive V-P for Business Development at Opinity, discussing eBay&#8217;s decision to ban postings linking to RapLeaf reputation profiles. (Note: RapLeaf is a partner of Opinity&#8217;s.)</p>
<p>We begin by talking about this development but move on to talk about the particular importance of reputation online and how eBay factors in.</p>
<p>You can find the podcast at <a href="http://blog.opinity.com/2006/05/ebay_rapleaf_an.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.opinity.com/2006/0.....af_an.html</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: BiZwiKi.CN - 喧闹 PK 噪音 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eBay将Rapleaf链接列入黑名单</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-48147</link>
		<dc:creator>BiZwiKi.CN - 喧闹 PK 噪音 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eBay将Rapleaf链接列入黑名单</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 06:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 有点时间，正好跟进一下之前的两张帖子里面的新闻。之前提到，Rapleaf 是一家新成立的关于个人信誉考核反馈信息记录的公司，它瞄准了eBay 的个人信用记录系统，并且对eBay 原有赖以为傲的FeedBack 系统提出了明确的置疑。相关的信息可以参考Michael Arrington 的 initial profile 及关于报道Rapleaf 启动新闻的 launch post. 另外，这里还有一份关于Michael Arrington 采访的一则信息。eBay 今天终于坐不住 —— 对 Rapleaf 进行了反击，对于在eBay 上面注册，同时引用自己在Rapleaf 上的个人信息作为个人信用评审的卖家。eBay 似乎正在做有选择性的删除。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 有点时间，正好跟进一下之前的两张帖子里面的新闻。之前提到，Rapleaf 是一家新成立的关于个人信誉考核反馈信息记录的公司，它瞄准了eBay 的个人信用记录系统，并且对eBay 原有赖以为傲的FeedBack 系统提出了明确的置疑。相关的信息可以参考Michael Arrington 的 initial profile 及关于报道Rapleaf 启动新闻的 launch post. 另外，这里还有一份关于Michael Arrington 采访的一则信息。eBay 今天终于坐不住 —— 对 Rapleaf 进行了反击，对于在eBay 上面注册，同时引用自己在Rapleaf 上的个人信息作为个人信用评审的卖家。eBay 似乎正在做有选择性的删除。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay Kolev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-48137</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolay Kolev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 05:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that RapLeaf can be build from scratch for a week. I already asked Mike once why does he advertise such oneweekers as this is not doing any good to his blog, nor to Web 2.0 in general.

A friend of mine just built a reputation system like this for even less than a week - check out eCrater (http://www.ecrater.com). It was interesting to observe how initially most of the sellers were against the feedback system, but after some time they started to appreciate it when sales went up! :-)

Regarding eBay and reputation systems outside of eBay - what about SquareTrade (http://www.squaretrade.com)? They've been providing seal and reputation services for years! SquareTrade is backing up my vision that one cannot build a credible reputation system without collecting fees or being in control of a marketplace. Providing ID verification and dispute resolution services simply cost money.

I'm not a big fan of eBay and I don't buy/sell stuff there unless I don't have a choice. My experience so far has been that when I provide negative feedback as a buyer, I get punished by the seller with negative feedback too. In other cases I receive positive feedback from sellers, trying to advertise for free on my profile. :-)

Another problem with seller reputation systems is that sometimes sellers would get (most of the) negative feedback from competitors. I've done this many times myself. :-) In other situations sellers get negative feedback from  haters that haven't had any business with that seller, doing it just for the sport.

As a member of BBB and I can tell you that their dispute resolution system involves real people on the BBB side and requires a proof from both the consumer and the business. I think this is the only credible type of feedback. Guy A giving credit to guy B is fine, but unless these two guys had some real business together, it's almost useless information or least to me it is. Feedback should also be categorized as the feedback is towards different "qualities" and this does not apply only to businesses. For example, I can rate guy A 10/10 that he keep his promises, but rate him 2/10 that he's never on time for meetings. For businesses, usually consumers are asked to rate customer service, shipping, etc. Having one overall rating could be a guesswork and lack analytics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that RapLeaf can be build from scratch for a week. I already asked Mike once why does he advertise such oneweekers as this is not doing any good to his blog, nor to Web 2.0 in general.</p>
<p>A friend of mine just built a reputation system like this for even less than a week - check out eCrater (http://www.ecrater.com). It was interesting to observe how initially most of the sellers were against the feedback system, but after some time they started to appreciate it when sales went up! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding eBay and reputation systems outside of eBay - what about SquareTrade (http://www.squaretrade.com)? They&#8217;ve been providing seal and reputation services for years! SquareTrade is backing up my vision that one cannot build a credible reputation system without collecting fees or being in control of a marketplace. Providing ID verification and dispute resolution services simply cost money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of eBay and I don&#8217;t buy/sell stuff there unless I don&#8217;t have a choice. My experience so far has been that when I provide negative feedback as a buyer, I get punished by the seller with negative feedback too. In other cases I receive positive feedback from sellers, trying to advertise for free on my profile. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another problem with seller reputation systems is that sometimes sellers would get (most of the) negative feedback from competitors. I&#8217;ve done this many times myself. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> In other situations sellers get negative feedback from  haters that haven&#8217;t had any business with that seller, doing it just for the sport.</p>
<p>As a member of BBB and I can tell you that their dispute resolution system involves real people on the BBB side and requires a proof from both the consumer and the business. I think this is the only credible type of feedback. Guy A giving credit to guy B is fine, but unless these two guys had some real business together, it&#8217;s almost useless information or least to me it is. Feedback should also be categorized as the feedback is towards different &#8220;qualities&#8221; and this does not apply only to businesses. For example, I can rate guy A 10/10 that he keep his promises, but rate him 2/10 that he&#8217;s never on time for meetings. For businesses, usually consumers are asked to rate customer service, shipping, etc. Having one overall rating could be a guesswork and lack analytics.</p>
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		<title>By: UZY.nl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Catching up #2</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-47918</link>
		<dc:creator>UZY.nl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Catching up #2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 22:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ebay lijkt niet gediend te zijn van Rapleafs aanval op hun reputatie systeem [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ebay lijkt niet gediend te zijn van Rapleafs aanval op hun reputatie systeem [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SurfNinja</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-47647</link>
		<dc:creator>SurfNinja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 17:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is certainly a market for a 3rd party rating system.  I am a avid eBay user and fan, but I think that the rating system is fundamently flawed.  A lot of people  get ripped off on eBay and DO NOT post negative feedback because they are worried that they too would get nailed with negative feedback.  It's happened to friends of mine and to me.  I have a 60+ 100% positive feedback and I got ripped off once with pirated software, that instead of coming from the US, it came from Thailand and was complete fake crap.  I sent complaints to eBay about pirated software and nothing was ever done.  I didn't give negative feedback out of fear of ruining my perfect score and I know lots of other friends who are in the same boat.  So a perfect system, it certainly is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is certainly a market for a 3rd party rating system.  I am a avid eBay user and fan, but I think that the rating system is fundamently flawed.  A lot of people  get ripped off on eBay and DO NOT post negative feedback because they are worried that they too would get nailed with negative feedback.  It&#8217;s happened to friends of mine and to me.  I have a 60+ 100% positive feedback and I got ripped off once with pirated software, that instead of coming from the US, it came from Thailand and was complete fake crap.  I sent complaints to eBay about pirated software and nothing was ever done.  I didn&#8217;t give negative feedback out of fear of ruining my perfect score and I know lots of other friends who are in the same boat.  So a perfect system, it certainly is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Fabretti</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-47230</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Fabretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 09:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is understandable, although inexcusable that eBay wants to remive these links.

eBay's success has been not just in providing an online marketplace, but a marketplace in which people can trust each other.

Any weakening of this by other market entrants poses a risk to eBay. Don't think that Louis Vuitton isn't p*ssed off that there are bags that look like his flying around the globe that do just as good a job (and may even be better quality!!). He is threatened...and what do they do...try and close factories down and prevent the counterfeit goods being produced.

For those ready to launch at me, I am in NO WAY saying Rapleaf is a counterfeit operation AT ALL, but the analogy still rings true. The market leader in feedback systems (i.e. eBay) is being threatened by an equally good system and they don't like it.


Rapleaf is a GREAT system and will become an essential component of any Web 2.0 retail company and should be supported around the blogoshpere if eBay decide to start pushing their weight around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is understandable, although inexcusable that eBay wants to remive these links.</p>
<p>eBay&#8217;s success has been not just in providing an online marketplace, but a marketplace in which people can trust each other.</p>
<p>Any weakening of this by other market entrants poses a risk to eBay. Don&#8217;t think that Louis Vuitton isn&#8217;t p*ssed off that there are bags that look like his flying around the globe that do just as good a job (and may even be better quality!!). He is threatened&#8230;and what do they do&#8230;try and close factories down and prevent the counterfeit goods being produced.</p>
<p>For those ready to launch at me, I am in NO WAY saying Rapleaf is a counterfeit operation AT ALL, but the analogy still rings true. The market leader in feedback systems (i.e. eBay) is being threatened by an equally good system and they don&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>Rapleaf is a GREAT system and will become an essential component of any Web 2.0 retail company and should be supported around the blogoshpere if eBay decide to start pushing their weight around.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-46777</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use something like tinyurl to hide the RapLeaf feedbakc link, so that it makes it slightly more hassle for ebay to ban it?

If RapLeaf offered some kinda random url -&#62; real feedback url mapping built in, then users would have no problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use something like tinyurl to hide the RapLeaf feedbakc link, so that it makes it slightly more hassle for ebay to ban it?</p>
<p>If RapLeaf offered some kinda random url -&gt; real feedback url mapping built in, then users would have no problem.</p>
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		<title>By: J j</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/17/ebay-bans-rapleaf-links/#comment-46768</link>
		<dc:creator>J j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They might go IPO I dunno.</description>
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