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		<title>By: Because I Write &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Digital Assets Management</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-79463</link>
		<dc:creator>Because I Write &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Digital Assets Management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read about this at Solution Watch. Apparently TechCrunch also featured this here. If you want to see a full list of online-storage services now available go to see this post here.   paperless [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I read about this at Solution Watch. Apparently TechCrunch also featured this here. If you want to see a full list of online-storage services now available go to see this post here.   paperless [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad Zaharia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-56156</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlad Zaharia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 23:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not manage to get the Fake CC to work.

If anyone has any suggestions for me, drop me a letter at:

vladzaharia[nospATnosp]gmail[nospDOTnosp]com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not manage to get the Fake CC to work.</p>
<p>If anyone has any suggestions for me, drop me a letter at:</p>
<p>vladzaharia[nospATnosp]gmail[nospDOTnosp]com</p>
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		<title>By: Fluxiom and Box.net at tech.stormgrass.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-45748</link>
		<dc:creator>Fluxiom and Box.net at tech.stormgrass.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 17:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been wanting to write a little bit about Fluxiom, Vienna based file storage and sharing app for a few days now. I was always too busy, and now Michael Arrington from TechCrunch is stealing my thunder. Read his review and you&#8217;ll have a good idea of what mine would have been like (only without the number crunching in the end&#8230;my research would have stopped after comparing prices). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been wanting to write a little bit about Fluxiom, Vienna based file storage and sharing app for a few days now. I was always too busy, and now Michael Arrington from TechCrunch is stealing my thunder. Read his review and you&#8217;ll have a good idea of what mine would have been like (only without the number crunching in the end&#8230;my research would have stopped after comparing prices). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fluxiom Launched &#187; Web 2.0 Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-34634</link>
		<dc:creator>Fluxiom Launched &#187; Web 2.0 Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 09:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcruch (as usual) has a good write up of Fluxiom and comes to a similar conclusion over the pricing: Fluxiom is smoking something if they think they can mass market their product with no free version and minimum pricing of 9 Euros (about $11.21) per month for just 200 MB of storage. And while they offer a 30 day free trial for all accounts, they require a credit card to open an account. If you don’t terminate before the end of the free trial, your card is automatically charged. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techcruch (as usual) has a good write up of Fluxiom and comes to a similar conclusion over the pricing: Fluxiom is smoking something if they think they can mass market their product with no free version and minimum pricing of 9 Euros (about $11.21) per month for just 200 MB of storage. And while they offer a 30 day free trial for all accounts, they require a credit card to open an account. If you don’t terminate before the end of the free trial, your card is automatically charged. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It looks obvious &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Orli Yakuel, the sequel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-34011</link>
		<dc:creator>It looks obvious &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Orli Yakuel, the sequel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Serious rumors about the mysterious Orli Yakuel, the web 2.0 diva , claiming that she might retire from her somewhat meteoric blogging career. Although she started blogging only recently Orli become successful blogger , and was even mentioned twice on techcrunch . However,&#160; rumors &#8211; maybe about the knight on the white horse &#8211; insisting that Orli might slow down her blogging career &#8211; or maybe bring it to complete halt. We certainly hope that these rumors, about retiring, are wrong and granting the mysterious knight our endless jealousy. blogosphare, Orli Yakuel, Tech Crunch, Web 2.0 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Serious rumors about the mysterious Orli Yakuel, the web 2.0 diva , claiming that she might retire from her somewhat meteoric blogging career. Although she started blogging only recently Orli become successful blogger , and was even mentioned twice on techcrunch . However,&nbsp; rumors &#8211; maybe about the knight on the white horse &#8211; insisting that Orli might slow down her blogging career &ndash; or maybe bring it to complete halt. We certainly hope that these rumors, about retiring, are wrong and granting the mysterious knight our endless jealousy. blogosphare, Orli Yakuel, Tech Crunch, Web 2.0 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Please Stop Whining About Fluxiom at The Hero Dies in This One</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-32250</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Stop Whining About Fluxiom at The Hero Dies in This One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So far, fluxiom has received rave reviews that usually point out how cool the app is, how nice the tagging works and oh look, the preview images adjust to the window size&#8230; but then all of a sudden, the authors (or, if not they authors, then it&#8217;s at least half of the people who leave a comment) all start the same rant about the pricing model somewhere at the end of their articles, usually accompanied by nonsense comparisons of the pricing to Amazon&#8217;s S3 or some other way of saying it&#8217;s too expensive. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So far, fluxiom has received rave reviews that usually point out how cool the app is, how nice the tagging works and oh look, the preview images adjust to the window size&#8230; but then all of a sudden, the authors (or, if not they authors, then it&#8217;s at least half of the people who leave a comment) all start the same rant about the pricing model somewhere at the end of their articles, usually accompanied by nonsense comparisons of the pricing to Amazon&#8217;s S3 or some other way of saying it&#8217;s too expensive. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Boutelle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31726</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Boutelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this idea:

"It would be great if these new services would allow a user to “plug in” their own server on the backside if so inclined."

We use basecamp as well, and do all file storage on our own ftp site. Let me pay for the value-add (Search, tagging, organization) and I'll happily bring my own storage!

However, from a business perspective, holding the data gives them "lock-in", so you can understand why fluxiom hasn't implemented something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea:</p>
<p>&#8220;It would be great if these new services would allow a user to “plug in” their own server on the backside if so inclined.&#8221;</p>
<p>We use basecamp as well, and do all file storage on our own ftp site. Let me pay for the value-add (Search, tagging, organization) and I&#8217;ll happily bring my own storage!</p>
<p>However, from a business perspective, holding the data gives them &#8220;lock-in&#8221;, so you can understand why fluxiom hasn&#8217;t implemented something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31557</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's would probably be fraud to use a fake credit card number, even one of the test ones like 4111 or 4242 and in a situation like this. Unless encouraged by the site of course! You could argue it is their fault to for not pre-authorising a card for the amount of next month. But still. Think!

amazon are offering a wholsesale storage price and anyone building applications on top of this will likely try and mark it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s would probably be fraud to use a fake credit card number, even one of the test ones like 4111 or 4242 and in a situation like this. Unless encouraged by the site of course! You could argue it is their fault to for not pre-authorising a card for the amount of next month. But still. Think!</p>
<p>amazon are offering a wholsesale storage price and anyone building applications on top of this will likely try and mark it up.</p>
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		<title>By: xxdesmus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31347</link>
		<dc:creator>xxdesmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just tried it, uploaded stuff, wasn't impressed with the speed of the interface, but the UI was really quite attractive. It doesn't seem like it would be hard for someone else to put that pretty UI on something that isn't so ridiculously overpriced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just tried it, uploaded stuff, wasn&#8217;t impressed with the speed of the interface, but the UI was really quite attractive. It doesn&#8217;t seem like it would be hard for someone else to put that pretty UI on something that isn&#8217;t so ridiculously overpriced.</p>
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		<title>By: jonto</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31309</link>
		<dc:creator>jonto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we all understand that Fluxiom is a great UI and that online storage is part of this equation.  

It would be great if these new services would allow a user to "plug in" their own server on the backside if so inclined.     

Case in point:  I'm in the process of downgrading to the free version of Basecamp.  Because I used my Strongspace account for the file storage, I can walk away from the aforementioned service cleanly with all of my files intact.  New services like Fluxiom should follow suit in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we all understand that Fluxiom is a great UI and that online storage is part of this equation.  </p>
<p>It would be great if these new services would allow a user to &#8220;plug in&#8221; their own server on the backside if so inclined.     </p>
<p>Case in point:  I&#8217;m in the process of downgrading to the free version of Basecamp.  Because I used my Strongspace account for the file storage, I can walk away from the aforementioned service cleanly with all of my files intact.  New services like Fluxiom should follow suit in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31297</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, check out box.net's pricing for comparison.  And, they will have background sync between desktop and online folders (or so I hope, after more than a month delay ....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, check out box.net&#8217;s pricing for comparison.  And, they will have background sync between desktop and online folders (or so I hope, after more than a month delay &#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31296</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike forgot to mention that registration requires a &lt;a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/blog/_archives/2006/4/12/1882232.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;millionaires24&lt;/a&gt; email address :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike forgot to mention that registration requires a <a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/blog/_archives/2006/4/12/1882232.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.zoliblog.com');">millionaires24</a> email address <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Boutelle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Boutelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael is thinking about this all wrong.

This isn't about online storage or archiving per se. This is about solving a business problem that has plagued companies for many years: the fact that designers, business decision-makers, and everyone besides engineers is completely unable to use source control systems.

I wrote about this issue two years ago.
http://www.jonathanboutelle.com/mt/archives/2004/07/what_if_the_des.html

As a business owner with creatives working in other countries, this product is terribly appealing for me. I balk at the price, but if I had the budget I would go for it. This is an "enterprise 2.0" app, not a consumer thing. Price accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael is thinking about this all wrong.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about online storage or archiving per se. This is about solving a business problem that has plagued companies for many years: the fact that designers, business decision-makers, and everyone besides engineers is completely unable to use source control systems.</p>
<p>I wrote about this issue two years ago.<br />
<a href="http://www.jonathanboutelle.com/mt/archives/2004/07/what_if_the_des.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonathanboutelle.co.....e_des.html</a></p>
<p>As a business owner with creatives working in other countries, this product is terribly appealing for me. I balk at the price, but if I had the budget I would go for it. This is an &#8220;enterprise 2.0&#8243; app, not a consumer thing. Price accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Wai Yip Tung</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31239</link>
		<dc:creator>Wai Yip Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photo site www.snapfish.com also takes zipped file upload. Works very well for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photo site <a href="http://www.snapfish.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.snapfish.com</a> also takes zipped file upload. Works very well for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wulff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31224</link>
		<dc:creator>Wulff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way: Fluxiom is not just about online storage (and I think the comparison to these vendors is wrong: http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/31/the-online-storage-gang/). 

It's about solving "file chaos" / "file sharing" effectively; a business objective which is actually a big software business industry ("DAM" &#62; digital asset management) with solutions most often in the many thousand dollars per month category. I know many of these  solutions from the marketing industry. 

Fluxioum still need a lot to become a good enough alternative to reach pro market acceptance &#62; being very in-expensive is of course OK  &#62; but not good enough. The team seems very talented and it's a fine "version 1.0".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way: Fluxiom is not just about online storage (and I think the comparison to these vendors is wrong: <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/31/the-online-storage-gang/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2006.....rage-gang/</a>). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about solving &#8220;file chaos&#8221; / &#8220;file sharing&#8221; effectively; a business objective which is actually a big software business industry (&#8221;DAM&#8221; &gt; digital asset management) with solutions most often in the many thousand dollars per month category. I know many of these  solutions from the marketing industry. </p>
<p>Fluxioum still need a lot to become a good enough alternative to reach pro market acceptance &gt; being very in-expensive is of course OK  &gt; but not good enough. The team seems very talented and it&#8217;s a fine &#8220;version 1.0&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wulff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31214</link>
		<dc:creator>Wulff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everybody who says that companies of course want to pay for quality storage (fast, secure), better interfaces, professional services etc. plus/minus $50 (or $100) will not be an issue! Not at all!

That said &#62; I don't really see Fluxioum in this "high-end", super-focused, top-level professional league at all - why at this point i join the category of people saying that Fluxioun at this point in time is a little too low-end to try to be high-end (actually mid-end &#62; the pricing is NOT that high at all). But in time this might happen ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everybody who says that companies of course want to pay for quality storage (fast, secure), better interfaces, professional services etc. plus/minus $50 (or $100) will not be an issue! Not at all!</p>
<p>That said &gt; I don&#8217;t really see Fluxioum in this &#8220;high-end&#8221;, super-focused, top-level professional league at all - why at this point i join the category of people saying that Fluxioun at this point in time is a little too low-end to try to be high-end (actually mid-end &gt; the pricing is NOT that high at all). But in time this might happen &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31199</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, www.swapzies.com is totally free, but never a mention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, <a href="http://www.swapzies.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.swapzies.com</a> is totally free, but never a mention!</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31153</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to comment on S3.  To begin, I am in the process of building a web service on top of it.  I think its a great  platform and am excited to see how it works in the wild with our application soon.

The interesting point is bandwidth costs.  Consider the $0.20/gig of band.  Now I doubt that it is a likely scenario with a service like fluxium that everyone using it in a single company is downloading every byte stored within a month so bear with me for a moment.  

Let's say I'm a  20 person company with 800MB stored on Fluxium in the 29 euro plan.  800MB is uploaded once and then downloaded once by all 20 people.  That's roughly $3.36 cost for bandwidth that month *just for what is sent to and from S3*.  Add fixed cost of servers &#38; rack space, bandwidth for the site itself which is probably significant considering everything is graphical, (add in the double hit on the 800mb upload twice when going to S3).

The point I am trying to make is that there is a more to the equation than simply $.20/gig band.  The reason GMail is able to offer you 2 gigs is because for the most part your data is sitting there (where the attachments are probably zipped to a size much smaller than 2gigs anyway) and only *you* should be downloading content off of it (some people probably POP it down to three different computers every week but consider them a very small minority).  When you get into the realm of theoretically unlimited people downloading X megs your bandwidth costs are multiplied.

S3 is cool though.  Personally I believe it will give rise to some great applications (but I'm biased ;)

As for not having a free trial.  Considering their value proposition is organization of a team/organization's digital content and keeping them in a space for you on-line -- I can imagine a 20meg free, single user trial being more of a burden than a conversion tool.  A demo interface preloaded with a gig of content (which you couldn't actually download =)... that might be worth doing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to comment on S3.  To begin, I am in the process of building a web service on top of it.  I think its a great  platform and am excited to see how it works in the wild with our application soon.</p>
<p>The interesting point is bandwidth costs.  Consider the $0.20/gig of band.  Now I doubt that it is a likely scenario with a service like fluxium that everyone using it in a single company is downloading every byte stored within a month so bear with me for a moment.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say I&#8217;m a  20 person company with 800MB stored on Fluxium in the 29 euro plan.  800MB is uploaded once and then downloaded once by all 20 people.  That&#8217;s roughly $3.36 cost for bandwidth that month *just for what is sent to and from S3*.  Add fixed cost of servers &amp; rack space, bandwidth for the site itself which is probably significant considering everything is graphical, (add in the double hit on the 800mb upload twice when going to S3).</p>
<p>The point I am trying to make is that there is a more to the equation than simply $.20/gig band.  The reason GMail is able to offer you 2 gigs is because for the most part your data is sitting there (where the attachments are probably zipped to a size much smaller than 2gigs anyway) and only *you* should be downloading content off of it (some people probably POP it down to three different computers every week but consider them a very small minority).  When you get into the realm of theoretically unlimited people downloading X megs your bandwidth costs are multiplied.</p>
<p>S3 is cool though.  Personally I believe it will give rise to some great applications (but I&#8217;m biased <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for not having a free trial.  Considering their value proposition is organization of a team/organization&#8217;s digital content and keeping them in a space for you on-line &#8212; I can imagine a 20meg free, single user trial being more of a burden than a conversion tool.  A demo interface preloaded with a gig of content (which you couldn&#8217;t actually download =)&#8230; that might be worth doing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jonto</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few thoughts on the subject which others have also touched on.  

Sell the interface, not the storage.  Since the value add is in the interface, why even get into the storage game?

While I know that online storage makes money today, this market will become an ultra competitive place to play in.  "Lifetime" accounts are becoming more popular in web hosting &#38; online storage alike.  As more people sign up for them, the "switching costs" for customers will increase.  

I'm no 37signals fan boy by any means, but am an advocate of using what works.  Their Basecamp model for storage is perfect.  They provide tiered storage for the person or company that doesn't want to be bothered with worrying about it, at a mark up of course.  They also allow the user to plug in their own FTP/SFTP server settings.  (Both camps are happy).

That's right!  I think Fluxiom should outsource the online storage piece.  They could "team up" with Box.net or Strongspace to provide the storage, while Fluxiom focuses on the value added UI.  You can see some of this happening already with Box.net integrating quite nicely into Netvibes.com.  

Oh! Evidently they also need to also bring the price down and add a free trial account for some of the other readership.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few thoughts on the subject which others have also touched on.  </p>
<p>Sell the interface, not the storage.  Since the value add is in the interface, why even get into the storage game?</p>
<p>While I know that online storage makes money today, this market will become an ultra competitive place to play in.  &#8220;Lifetime&#8221; accounts are becoming more popular in web hosting &amp; online storage alike.  As more people sign up for them, the &#8220;switching costs&#8221; for customers will increase.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m no 37signals fan boy by any means, but am an advocate of using what works.  Their Basecamp model for storage is perfect.  They provide tiered storage for the person or company that doesn&#8217;t want to be bothered with worrying about it, at a mark up of course.  They also allow the user to plug in their own FTP/SFTP server settings.  (Both camps are happy).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right!  I think Fluxiom should outsource the online storage piece.  They could &#8220;team up&#8221; with Box.net or Strongspace to provide the storage, while Fluxiom focuses on the value added UI.  You can see some of this happening already with Box.net integrating quite nicely into Netvibes.com.  </p>
<p>Oh! Evidently they also need to also bring the price down and add a free trial account for some of the other readership.  <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31143</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think the Amazon pricing is fair. This is a whole different audience. I've worked for ad agencies that pay tens of thousands of dollars every year for their digital asset management (DAM) software, and that's considered cheap. $11.00/month? That's not even a drop in the bucket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the Amazon pricing is fair. This is a whole different audience. I&#8217;ve worked for ad agencies that pay tens of thousands of dollars every year for their digital asset management (DAM) software, and that&#8217;s considered cheap. $11.00/month? That&#8217;s not even a drop in the bucket.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31125</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The owner's of fluxiom must be watching old re-runs of Dallas where America is portrayed as the land of plenty and wasteful where everyone has a million bucks to throw away.

Costs are now perhaps the most important factor in businesses making decisions about products. Work is being outsourced daily to save $$$. US businesses will not throw money at fluxiom when there are cheaper/equivalent alternatives.

Having our data oversees in Europe someplace is certainly not to our advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owner&#8217;s of fluxiom must be watching old re-runs of Dallas where America is portrayed as the land of plenty and wasteful where everyone has a million bucks to throw away.</p>
<p>Costs are now perhaps the most important factor in businesses making decisions about products. Work is being outsourced daily to save $$$. US businesses will not throw money at fluxiom when there are cheaper/equivalent alternatives.</p>
<p>Having our data oversees in Europe someplace is certainly not to our advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31120</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Bryan--Fluxiom is probably not trying to become the next Flickr or StrongSpace. From what I can tell, they're looking for business clients to whom 11 or even 100 dollars a month is a fantastic deal if it helps them run their business more efficiently and saves them time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Bryan&#8211;Fluxiom is probably not trying to become the next Flickr or StrongSpace. From what I can tell, they&#8217;re looking for business clients to whom 11 or even 100 dollars a month is a fantastic deal if it helps them run their business more efficiently and saves them time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Buchs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31093</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Buchs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I've only seen one or two comments that touch on this, but YOU are not the target market. They're going after higher-end, business users that actually need this kind of service - not web geeks who want to play with the interface for free. Companies that have the $$ in their budget for marketing and design services won't even blink at the pricing.

Also, the author's comment: "Yes, Fluxiom has built a nice interface on top of their storage service, but this pricing is flat out outrageous."... THAT is outrageous. Using that same line of thought, why doesn't everyone just get a cheap account somewhere and FTP files back and forth? Or invest in thumb drives? Their product IS the interface. S3 is an interesting model, but it's just storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve only seen one or two comments that touch on this, but YOU are not the target market. They&#8217;re going after higher-end, business users that actually need this kind of service - not web geeks who want to play with the interface for free. Companies that have the $$ in their budget for marketing and design services won&#8217;t even blink at the pricing.</p>
<p>Also, the author&#8217;s comment: &#8220;Yes, Fluxiom has built a nice interface on top of their storage service, but this pricing is flat out outrageous.&#8221;&#8230; THAT is outrageous. Using that same line of thought, why doesn&#8217;t everyone just get a cheap account somewhere and FTP files back and forth? Or invest in thumb drives? Their product IS the interface. S3 is an interesting model, but it&#8217;s just storage.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11 Euros is too much for a service that you would trust your files to?  Are you serious?  How exactly do you expect these companies to operate if you find 11 Euros outrageous for such an important service?  

Comparing it to Amazon is like comparing going down to the fisherman at the wharf and purchasing your fish as opposed to going to a restaurant where the fish is prepared for you.  Most users can't use Amazon's service and Amazon has not designed their service to be used by anyone other than developers who will then mark up the pricing based on the value add they bring to the party.

Your comments are far too "2000ish."  I would have thought everyone learned the lesson that you can't have wonderful online services for free.  When comparing a service such as Fluxium to other cheaper services, you have to ask yourself how wonderful those cheaper services are if their business model won't allow them to be around in three years.  Just because its free or cheap does not mean it's something that will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11 Euros is too much for a service that you would trust your files to?  Are you serious?  How exactly do you expect these companies to operate if you find 11 Euros outrageous for such an important service?  </p>
<p>Comparing it to Amazon is like comparing going down to the fisherman at the wharf and purchasing your fish as opposed to going to a restaurant where the fish is prepared for you.  Most users can&#8217;t use Amazon&#8217;s service and Amazon has not designed their service to be used by anyone other than developers who will then mark up the pricing based on the value add they bring to the party.</p>
<p>Your comments are far too &#8220;2000ish.&#8221;  I would have thought everyone learned the lesson that you can&#8217;t have wonderful online services for free.  When comparing a service such as Fluxium to other cheaper services, you have to ask yourself how wonderful those cheaper services are if their business model won&#8217;t allow them to be around in three years.  Just because its free or cheap does not mean it&#8217;s something that will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Linus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/26/fluxiom-great-product-outrageously-priced/#comment-31064</link>
		<dc:creator>Linus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"“Fluxiom has come up with a unique way to deal with the issue without a desktop uploader - by allowing users to zip up files and upload them all in one go.”

Um, Strongspace has had that ability for quite a while. "

And so has Storegate.
This guy gets payed to promote some and ignore others? This is some funny CRAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Fluxiom has come up with a unique way to deal with the issue without a desktop uploader - by allowing users to zip up files and upload them all in one go.”</p>
<p>Um, Strongspace has had that ability for quite a while. &#8221;</p>
<p>And so has Storegate.<br />
This guy gets payed to promote some and ignore others? This is some funny CRAP.</p>
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