Comments on: Otavo To Launch in May http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:17:40 -0800 hourly 1 By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 質問・探索・ブックマーク：３拍子揃ったOtavo http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-112308 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 質問・探索・ブックマーク：３拍子揃ったOtavo Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:12:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-112308 [...] Otavoはカナダのオンタリオに本拠を置くサービスで、今日(米国時間7/25)ちょうどベータ版が公開となる。この会社については本ブログで４月にも取り上げたが、公開版は見た感じもナカナカいい。 [...] [...] Otavoはカナダのオンタリオに本拠を置くサービスで、今日(米国時間7/25)ちょうどベータ版が公開となる。この会社については本ブログで４月にも取り上げたが、公開版は見た感じもナカナカいい。 [...]

]]> By: Techcrunch » Blog Archive » Questions, Quests and Bookmarks: Otavo does it all http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-111995 Techcrunch » Blog Archive » Questions, Quests and Bookmarks: Otavo does it all Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:03:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-111995 [...] Otavo is an Ontario, Canada based service that’s just moving into public beta today. We posted about them in April and now that the service is public, it looks good. Otavo users can ask and answer questions, organize and comment on bookmarks and share their goals in a social context. Think del.icio.us + ask.metafilter + 43Things wrapped in a nice UI with points for participation and prizes for the top users. Very cool. [...] [...] Otavo is an Ontario, Canada based service that’s just moving into public beta today. We posted about them in April and now that the service is public, it looks good. Otavo users can ask and answer questions, organize and comment on bookmarks and share their goals in a social context. Think del.icio.us + ask.metafilter + 43Things wrapped in a nice UI with points for participation and prizes for the top users. Very cool. [...]

]]> By: Occam's Machete http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-28196 Occam's Machete Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:04:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-28196 <strong>My First Cell Phone...</strong> My first cell phone was a brick. It was barely portable and don't talk to be about internet access, email, digital photography, video and music on demand—it didn't even text. Things don't always end up as they startup. Social bookmarking...... My First Cell Phone…

My first cell phone was a brick. It was barely portable and don’t talk to be about internet access, email, digital photography, video and music on demand—it didn’t even text. Things don’t always end up as they startup. Social bookmarking……

]]> By: madape http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26715 madape Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:42:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26715 I think one valuable feature that seems like most bookmarking services have overlooked (or avoided) is the ability to archive linked pages. This seems like it would be even more useful if the links were used for research. Web-based content usually doesn't last long and it can be a bit of a pain to dig something up on archive.org (which is a great service nonetheless). I think one valuable feature that seems like most bookmarking services have overlooked (or avoided) is the ability to archive linked pages. This seems like it would be even more useful if the links were used for research.

Web-based content usually doesn’t last long and it can be a bit of a pain to dig something up on archive.org (which is a great service nonetheless).

]]> By: Jacknut http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26709 Jacknut Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:34:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26709 The problem with social networking sites is that the people on them are rarely worth getting to know. Judging by profiles and posts, most people are social retards with no concept of written English. The problem with social networking sites is that the people on them are rarely worth getting to know. Judging by profiles and posts, most people are social retards with no concept of written English.

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26575 Michael Arrington Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:50:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26575 Colin, yes, Amanuel, the founder, is ok with this post. Colin, yes, Amanuel, the founder, is ok with this post.

]]> By: Colin http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26574 Colin Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:48:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26574 And they let you post this? What about the srict no-blogging rules? And they let you post this? What about the srict no-blogging rules?

]]> By: Saul Weiner http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26546 Saul Weiner Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:16:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26546 kmx.. very true. I'm all for discussion, even criticism :-) kmx.. very true. I’m all for discussion, even criticism :-)

]]> By: Drew http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26544 Drew Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:43:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26544 In the few short weeks that I have been privileged to test Otavo, the potential has become obvious. There really is no comparison between Otavo and Del.icio.us. Rather than go into specifics, I will just say that the search results in Otavo are collaborative, and more specific to the actual intentions of your search. I highly recommend that people at least give at a spin, before poo-pooing it as yet another search engine... it promises to be much more than this. In the few short weeks that I have been privileged to test Otavo, the potential has become obvious. There really is no comparison between Otavo and Del.icio.us. Rather than go into specifics, I will just say that the search results in Otavo are collaborative, and more specific to the actual intentions of your search.

I highly recommend that people at least give at a spin, before poo-pooing it as yet another search engine… it promises to be much more than this.

]]> By: kmx http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26542 kmx Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:34:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26542 Hey Saul, we all appreciate Michael's blog; however, don't forget that it's the nature of the net to "discuss". We're all just being ourselves. :) Hey Saul, we all appreciate Michael’s blog; however, don’t forget that it’s the nature of the net to “discuss”. We’re all just being ourselves. :)

]]> By: Saul Weiner http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26487 Saul Weiner Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:19:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26487 Wow, it always amazes me how folks just criticize, but don’t bother to offer any constructive recommendations about what to do. Keep up the great work. I know it’s tough to keep it going. I appreciate all the time taken to keep this blog going. Wow, it always amazes me how folks just criticize, but don’t bother to offer any constructive recommendations about what to do. Keep up the great work. I know it’s tough to keep it going. I appreciate all the time taken to keep this blog going.

]]> By: Pete Cashmore http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26460 Pete Cashmore Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:12:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26460 Aw...you commenters are nasty. :) Nah, it's actually more of a social search play than a social bookmarking site. Mike compares it to Wink, which is right on. But the dynamics are different from both del.icio.us and Wink - you start a "quest" and others searching for the same thing can complete your quest. That all gets stored, and delivered to future searchers when they're looking for the same thing as you. Maybe a cross between Yahoo Answers and Wink. I'm not convinced by the argument "why couldn't flickr/delicious/digg do this?". At the risk of making a bad analogy, did the YouTube guys think: we won't build our site because Flickr might decide to do the same thing? Of course not! (And the stats show they're now bigger than Flickr). In fact, I'd argue that Flickr would never have built YouTube, because they don't relate to the MySpace demographic. But yeah, while the future of search will probably be social, it will likely come about by combining social bookmarking with search - Yahoo has a good shot. All these social search startups will struggle, simply because the big three have invested so heavily in search. Aw…you commenters are nasty. :)

Nah, it’s actually more of a social search play than a social bookmarking site. Mike compares it to Wink, which is right on. But the dynamics are different from both del.icio.us and Wink – you start a “quest” and others searching for the same thing can complete your quest. That all gets stored, and delivered to future searchers when they’re looking for the same thing as you. Maybe a cross between Yahoo Answers and Wink.

I’m not convinced by the argument “why couldn’t flickr/delicious/digg do this?”. At the risk of making a bad analogy, did the YouTube guys think: we won’t build our site because Flickr might decide to do the same thing? Of course not! (And the stats show they’re now bigger than Flickr). In fact, I’d argue that Flickr would never have built YouTube, because they don’t relate to the MySpace demographic.

But yeah, while the future of search will probably be social, it will likely come about by combining social bookmarking with search – Yahoo has a good shot. All these social search startups will struggle, simply because the big three have invested so heavily in search.

]]> By: kmx http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26445 kmx Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:32:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26445 I'm sorry, I'm going to do a David Spade thing here: I liked it better the first time, when it was called Del.icio.us. Sorry, you were begging for it, Mikey. I’m sorry, I’m going to do a David Spade thing here:

I liked it better the first time, when it was called Del.icio.us.

Sorry, you were begging for it, Mikey.

]]> By: Amanuel http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26435 Amanuel Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:54:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26435 While Otavo has similarites to successful social bookmarking models it is quite different. Otavo's core concept is to organize your information on intentions (we call quests) instead of tags. Tags are used as a secondary organizer. What's the difference between Tags and Intentions? Tags are categories. As categories, a tag does not store HOW or WHY you would use the information tagged, just where it belongs in the grand scheme of things. Intentions store HOW and WHY you want to use the information. This allows users to organize information for a specific purpose instead of just filing it like a librarian. While Otavo has similarites to successful social bookmarking models it is quite different.

Otavo’s core concept is to organize your information on intentions (we call quests) instead of tags. Tags are used as a secondary organizer.

What’s the difference between Tags and Intentions?

Tags are categories. As categories, a tag does not store HOW or WHY you would use the information tagged, just where it belongs in the grand scheme of things.

Intentions store HOW and WHY you want to use the information.

This allows users to organize information for a specific purpose instead of just filing it like a librarian.

]]> By: Blaze http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26407 Blaze Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:00:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26407 Yeah while I understand it's your thing to report new companies as they come out, the concepts of these companies are getting ridiculous. How many bookmarking sites do people really need? And what makes it so hard for someone like delicious to implement something like this? Apparently they are "Pioneering the intentional web revolution" but I fail to be persuaded. Yeah while I understand it’s your thing to report new companies as they come out, the concepts of these companies are getting ridiculous. How many bookmarking sites do people really need? And what makes it so hard for someone like delicious to implement something like this? Apparently they are “Pioneering the intentional web revolution” but I fail to be persuaded.

]]> By: Simon http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26392 Simon Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:12:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26392 The problem I see with any of these tag-based search engines is that of tag spam. They're fine in principle if you can trust your users but I'm sure it won't be long before you find porn and Viagra sites tagged with every topic under the sun and the result quality will go down the pan The problem I see with any of these tag-based search engines is that of tag spam. They’re fine in principle if you can trust your users but I’m sure it won’t be long before you find porn and Viagra sites tagged with every topic under the sun and the result quality will go down the pan

]]> By: Jason Terry http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26381 Jason Terry Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:10:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26381 Wow, hey, another social bookmarking company with a twist. WHY ARE YOU WRITING ABOUT THESE COMPANIES??? Wow, hey, another social bookmarking company with a twist. WHY ARE YOU WRITING ABOUT THESE COMPANIES???

]]> By: lawrence coburn http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/comment-page-1/#comment-26376 lawrence coburn Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:33:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/10/otavo-to-launch-in-may/#comment-26376 Sort of like Rollyo for social bookmarks? Sort of like Rollyo for social bookmarks?

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