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	<title>Comments on: eJamming &#8211; Distributed Jamming</title>
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		<title>By: marty fowler</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-2968096</link>
		<dc:creator>marty fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used this program from when it first was conceived and wished it would work.  I remember one night playing with a guitarist from Japan and that was worth a million dollars in my opinion.  I would pay for this if it was not one time out of a couple dozen I get some idiot to jam with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used this program from when it first was conceived and wished it would work.  I remember one night playing with a guitarist from Japan and that was worth a million dollars in my opinion.  I would pay for this if it was not one time out of a couple dozen I get some idiot to jam with.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-2691718</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t necessarily have to be far away for me to be interested in playing with them. They just have to be available when I&#039;m available.

Unfortunately for me I work all freakin day and tak e classes several nights during the week in addition to having a wife and kids.

Living in the suburbs ther aren&#039;t as many people around that play and even fewer places to get together.

I agree playing with people in the same room is ideal, but if you can&#039;t be with the ones you jam with then jam with the ones your with? 

Oh that is bad. Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t necessarily have to be far away for me to be interested in playing with them. They just have to be available when I&#8217;m available.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for me I work all freakin day and tak e classes several nights during the week in addition to having a wife and kids.</p>
<p>Living in the suburbs ther aren&#8217;t as many people around that play and even fewer places to get together.</p>
<p>I agree playing with people in the same room is ideal, but if you can&#8217;t be with the ones you jam with then jam with the ones your with? </p>
<p>Oh that is bad. Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: cford</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-235743</link>
		<dc:creator>cford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sean, interaction is what feeds creativity in a jam, it is all about the groove, not sure how to do this from afar with a machine in between.

http://guitargearnews.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sean, interaction is what feeds creativity in a jam, it is all about the groove, not sure how to do this from afar with a machine in between.</p>
<p><a href="http://guitargearnews.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://guitargearnews.blogspot.com'>http://guitarge...ws.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-98585</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, your comment that MIDI is not good for jamming is silly.  The Grateful Dead used MIDI for years in live concerts, to great effect.  Garcia used a variety of horn and flute sounds over the years that sounded great in concert and on live albums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, your comment that MIDI is not good for jamming is silly.  The Grateful Dead used MIDI for years in live concerts, to great effect.  Garcia used a variety of horn and flute sounds over the years that sounded great in concert and on live albums.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 - Что нового? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eJamming - распределённые джем-сейшены</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-34647</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 - Что нового? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; eJamming - распределённые джем-сейшены</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 10:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: McPhystal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-24988</link>
		<dc:creator>McPhystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 05:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because you haven&#039;t tried it, you can&#039;t say shit.  By the way...what are your credentials Crypto?  I have been trained through a professional and college music cirriculum.  I also perform and teach music as a professional.  Your idea of &quot;quite nicely&quot; (with regards to latency) won&#039;t cut it in the professional world.  I have experienced latencies using Ninjam, that exceed single measures of music.  Ejamming starts with small latencies created by an inconsistent Internet, but actually corrects them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because you haven&#8217;t tried it, you can&#8217;t say shit.  By the way&#8230;what are your credentials Crypto?  I have been trained through a professional and college music cirriculum.  I also perform and teach music as a professional.  Your idea of &#8220;quite nicely&#8221; (with regards to latency) won&#8217;t cut it in the professional world.  I have experienced latencies using Ninjam, that exceed single measures of music.  Ejamming starts with small latencies created by an inconsistent Internet, but actually corrects them.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptomail</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-24648</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptomail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@McPhystal.
Callilng bullshit.
NINJAM records just beautifully with high quality multi-track OGG&#039;s.

Also, your notion of there not being any perceptable nor affecting latency is utter.complete.bullshit.

Admittedly, NINJAM is different.
It *lengthens* latency, quite nicely in fact, to make things work.

Also, I can pick up my guitar and play.
You must have a midi guitar or sumtin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@McPhystal.<br />
Callilng bullshit.<br />
NINJAM records just beautifully with high quality multi-track OGG&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Also, your notion of there not being any perceptable nor affecting latency is utter.complete.bullshit.</p>
<p>Admittedly, NINJAM is different.<br />
It *lengthens* latency, quite nicely in fact, to make things work.</p>
<p>Also, I can pick up my guitar and play.<br />
You must have a midi guitar or sumtin.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-24647</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I find the idea of playing guitar and having that converted to MIDI quite ridiculous-- sure, it may be useful for composing, but for jamming, it is completely absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I find the idea of playing guitar and having that converted to MIDI quite ridiculous&#8211; sure, it may be useful for composing, but for jamming, it is completely absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: McPhystal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-23035</link>
		<dc:creator>McPhystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ninjam is great for jamming, but can&#039;t function as an efficient recording program.  When you need to record an album or just jam in high quality with no latency...I would suggest eJamming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ninjam is great for jamming, but can&#8217;t function as an efficient recording program.  When you need to record an album or just jam in high quality with no latency&#8230;I would suggest eJamming.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22988</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Havnt tried Ejam yet but was using Ninjam... The sound is absolutly amazing. However the delay is the killer. Ill play fast beebop songs (im a drummer) with a guitarist friend, and it sounds on time to me.. to him im playing the head 2 measures behind him. BLAH. So, its amazing, sounds stunning, but youll have to write some new forms of music with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Havnt tried Ejam yet but was using Ninjam&#8230; The sound is absolutly amazing. However the delay is the killer. Ill play fast beebop songs (im a drummer) with a guitarist friend, and it sounds on time to me.. to him im playing the head 2 measures behind him. BLAH. So, its amazing, sounds stunning, but youll have to write some new forms of music with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: award tour &#187; TechCrunch » eJamming - Distributed Jamming</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22716</link>
		<dc:creator>award tour &#187; TechCrunch » eJamming - Distributed Jamming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eJamming - Distributed Jamming. application to let you &#8220;jam&#8221; with any midi enabled instrument and a net connection. i don&#8217;t know shit about playing an instrument or jamming, but wouldn&#8217;t the 100ms audio delay make it annoying as hell? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] eJamming &#8211; Distributed Jamming. application to let you &#8220;jam&#8221; with any midi enabled instrument and a net connection. i don&#8217;t know shit about playing an instrument or jamming, but wouldn&#8217;t the 100ms audio delay make it annoying as hell? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: McPhystal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22710</link>
		<dc:creator>McPhystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhh...vocals can be added later, but locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhh&#8230;vocals can be added later, but locally.</p>
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		<title>By: McPhystal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22709</link>
		<dc:creator>McPhystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also...despite the great samples of musicianship amongst Ninjam&#039;s clients, the professional music world seeks great sound quality, which is not yet possible when recording raw audio through the Internet.  Although eJamming shares a similar ambition with Ninjam, the eJamming program is made to work as a casual jam application, but with a capacity for professional recording.  Unfortunately, Ninjam&#039;s sound quality can be used for little more than a casual jam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also&#8230;despite the great samples of musicianship amongst Ninjam&#8217;s clients, the professional music world seeks great sound quality, which is not yet possible when recording raw audio through the Internet.  Although eJamming shares a similar ambition with Ninjam, the eJamming program is made to work as a casual jam application, but with a capacity for professional recording.  Unfortunately, Ninjam&#8217;s sound quality can be used for little more than a casual jam.</p>
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		<title>By: McPhystal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22703</link>
		<dc:creator>McPhystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...if you cannot hear the difference in latency, more power to you...although I don&#039;t foresee any paying gigs for you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;if you cannot hear the difference in latency, more power to you&#8230;although I don&#8217;t foresee any paying gigs for you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: slarta</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22475</link>
		<dc:creator>slarta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ninjam wins hands down, firstly its free, and secondly i can play anything i want through the mic, just try singing in ejamming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ninjam wins hands down, firstly its free, and secondly i can play anything i want through the mic, just try singing in ejamming.</p>
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		<title>By: Change it up - Brokekid.net</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22258</link>
		<dc:creator>Change it up - Brokekid.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another way of becoming more social by being less social&#8230;with a lame name to boot! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: McPhystal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-22080</link>
		<dc:creator>McPhystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been testing ejamming for about 4 months now in order to work out all the kinks in the system.  Fortunately, latency is not one of them (with the proper settings).  Ejamming is further developing their software so that it adjusts your settings based on the ping rate to each player.  I have played with a 100m/s delay before (from LA to Israel) and it sounded like it was two feet away because of the sync settings.  Last month, I had a jam with musicians from England, Israel, New York, Florida, and Australia without problem (I&#039;m from Los Angeles).  As a professional musician, I can tell you that this program far exceeds any skype or Ninjam application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been testing ejamming for about 4 months now in order to work out all the kinks in the system.  Fortunately, latency is not one of them (with the proper settings).  Ejamming is further developing their software so that it adjusts your settings based on the ping rate to each player.  I have played with a 100m/s delay before (from LA to Israel) and it sounded like it was two feet away because of the sync settings.  Last month, I had a jam with musicians from England, Israel, New York, Florida, and Australia without problem (I&#8217;m from Los Angeles).  As a professional musician, I can tell you that this program far exceeds any skype or Ninjam application.</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-21859</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this idea, and I would love to be able to play with like-minded musicians regardless of where they live.

Regarding latency, it&#039;s quite possible to have a low-latency conversation over the net, isn&#039;t it? I can picture an app that would let the musicians hear the other musicians at a reduced bandwidth in realtime, but as soon as they stop, the full-bandwidth audio is sent to all participants. Forget about MIDI, it&#039;s no good for anything but General MIDI sounds (the listener would not hear the same sounds you&#039;re playing unless he/she had the same instrument/patch to play the MIDI through), it needs to be done with audio data. It&#039;ll happen, it&#039;s just a matter of when and by whom. Personally I&#039;m looking forward to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea, and I would love to be able to play with like-minded musicians regardless of where they live.</p>
<p>Regarding latency, it&#8217;s quite possible to have a low-latency conversation over the net, isn&#8217;t it? I can picture an app that would let the musicians hear the other musicians at a reduced bandwidth in realtime, but as soon as they stop, the full-bandwidth audio is sent to all participants. Forget about MIDI, it&#8217;s no good for anything but General MIDI sounds (the listener would not hear the same sounds you&#8217;re playing unless he/she had the same instrument/patch to play the MIDI through), it needs to be done with audio data. It&#8217;ll happen, it&#8217;s just a matter of when and by whom. Personally I&#8217;m looking forward to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-21801</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hooked up iChat with eJamming today and exchanged ideas with a guy in London!

I had a blast! I even bussed it to Reason and we collaborated on patches. Next I&#039;m going to experiment with bussing it to the sequencer in my ProTools HD for easier editing.

Of course you&#039;re not going to play Giant Steps at breakneck speeds . . . 

However, it&#039;s a heck of a lot faster than telephone delays AND I HAD FUN!!! That was worth the price of admission.

In a week I&#039;m writing with someone who is local so the initial delays should be significantly less . . .  I&#039;ll let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hooked up iChat with eJamming today and exchanged ideas with a guy in London!</p>
<p>I had a blast! I even bussed it to Reason and we collaborated on patches. Next I&#8217;m going to experiment with bussing it to the sequencer in my ProTools HD for easier editing.</p>
<p>Of course you&#8217;re not going to play Giant Steps at breakneck speeds . . . </p>
<p>However, it&#8217;s a heck of a lot faster than telephone delays AND I HAD FUN!!! That was worth the price of admission.</p>
<p>In a week I&#8217;m writing with someone who is local so the initial delays should be significantly less . . .  I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bivings Report &#187; We&#8217;re on a Mission from God</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-21747</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bivings Report &#187; We&#8217;re on a Mission from God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Todd sent me an interesting link earlier via TechnCrunch about a new service called eJamming which allows musicians in many different parts of the country or world to play or jam together via their MIDI enabled instruments. I have heard of people using Skype to do the same thing – everyone gets on a ‘conference call’ and plays their music together. The problem with using such services is the delay or latency issues that crop up. According to the eJamming website, they solve this with patented algorithms that “delay the sounding of your instrument until you receive music data from your fellow eJammers.” They also make you use MIDI to get around this issue (doesn’t look like they support vocals or any non-MIDI instrument). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Todd sent me an interesting link earlier via TechnCrunch about a new service called eJamming which allows musicians in many different parts of the country or world to play or jam together via their MIDI enabled instruments. I have heard of people using Skype to do the same thing – everyone gets on a ‘conference call’ and plays their music together. The problem with using such services is the delay or latency issues that crop up. According to the eJamming website, they solve this with patented algorithms that “delay the sounding of your instrument until you receive music data from your fellow eJammers.” They also make you use MIDI to get around this issue (doesn’t look like they support vocals or any non-MIDI instrument). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: t2k</title>
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		<dc:creator>t2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IGNORANCE DETECTOR:

&quot;MIDI data means no latency&quot;

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This is totally incorrect and indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of latency.

You can definitely have a lower latency if you&#039;re transfering smaller packets of data, but there is always still latency.

I&#039;m with all of the skeptics here - great idea, but the internet is still not ready for it. Latency is absolutely crucial to responsive and accurate musical timing, there is no &quot;fudging&quot; it.

It took sound card manufacturers YEARS to solve the latency problem, and all that did was minimize the delay between the time you hit a key in your own house and hear the sound on your own speakers.

It will be years if not decades before this idea makes a real impact on music and jamming. Until I&#039;m able to hit a key in my house on the west coast and instantly create sound in your house on the west coast, this is just a gimmick.</description>
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<p>&#8220;MIDI data means no latency&#8221;</p>
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<p>This is totally incorrect and indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of latency.</p>
<p>You can definitely have a lower latency if you&#8217;re transfering smaller packets of data, but there is always still latency.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with all of the skeptics here &#8211; great idea, but the internet is still not ready for it. Latency is absolutely crucial to responsive and accurate musical timing, there is no &#8220;fudging&#8221; it.</p>
<p>It took sound card manufacturers YEARS to solve the latency problem, and all that did was minimize the delay between the time you hit a key in your own house and hear the sound on your own speakers.</p>
<p>It will be years if not decades before this idea makes a real impact on music and jamming. Until I&#8217;m able to hit a key in my house on the west coast and instantly create sound in your house on the west coast, this is just a gimmick.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-20951</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIDI data means no latency, because it is really just small packets of text representing musical info.

You can get a USB-MIDI interface for about $30 from any computer store.

And for the record, you can make your drumkits and guitars/bass guitars MIDI capable with the use of drum triggers or MIDI pickups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIDI data means no latency, because it is really just small packets of text representing musical info.</p>
<p>You can get a USB-MIDI interface for about $30 from any computer store.</p>
<p>And for the record, you can make your drumkits and guitars/bass guitars MIDI capable with the use of drum triggers or MIDI pickups.</p>
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		<title>By: The Trend Junkie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trick App: eJamming</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/16/ejamming-distributed-jamming/comment-page-1/#comment-20924</link>
		<dc:creator>The Trend Junkie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trick App: eJamming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check out eJamming, a collaborative and distributed music site. The system allows musicians from all over the world the opportunity to jam together via the web. Sounds wild, apparently they have patented algorithms that handle any latency issues. Mike over at Techcrunch puts a review together. Check it out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Check out eJamming, a collaborative and distributed music site. The system allows musicians from all over the world the opportunity to jam together via the web. Sounds wild, apparently they have patented algorithms that handle any latency issues. Mike over at Techcrunch puts a review together. Check it out. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar Varese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edgar Varese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;delay the sounding of your instrument until you receive music data from your fellow eJammers&quot;

They&#039;re kidding, right? As any musician would know, any artificial delay in the sounding of the instrument will seriously compromise the musician&#039;s timing and destroy the possibility of having a tight-sounding groove.

50-90ms latency is way too much.  Try running your guitar or piano through a 50 ms delay effect and see just how much of a delay it really is.  It might not see like a lot, but it&#039;s an eternity in music time.

In my experience delay must be kept under 15ms at the maximum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;delay the sounding of your instrument until you receive music data from your fellow eJammers&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re kidding, right? As any musician would know, any artificial delay in the sounding of the instrument will seriously compromise the musician&#8217;s timing and destroy the possibility of having a tight-sounding groove.</p>
<p>50-90ms latency is way too much.  Try running your guitar or piano through a 50 ms delay effect and see just how much of a delay it really is.  It might not see like a lot, but it&#8217;s an eternity in music time.</p>
<p>In my experience delay must be kept under 15ms at the maximum.</p>
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		<title>By: rod edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>rod edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how latency could be fully overcome. Personally, it would drive me nuts to have everyone in the band half a second off from everyone else. Good luck to them, but I&#039;d say zero latency would be a must have for jamming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how latency could be fully overcome. Personally, it would drive me nuts to have everyone in the band half a second off from everyone else. Good luck to them, but I&#8217;d say zero latency would be a must have for jamming.</p>
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