Comments on: Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:00:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Notes on Paying Users « timtowle http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-385196 Notes on Paying Users « timtowle Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:39:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-385196 [...] Lots of start-ups within the social bookmarking space are paying users and here in Spain Digg clones Meneame and Fresqui have both announced within a day or so of each other that they’ll pay users via the AdSense route. [...] [...] Lots of start-ups within the social bookmarking space are paying users and here in Spain Digg clones Meneame and Fresqui have both announced within a day or so of each other that they’ll pay users via the AdSense route. [...]

]]> By: Sugar We're Going Down http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-192725 Sugar We're Going Down Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:31:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-192725 <strong>Dave...</strong> Interesting topic... I'm working in this industry myself and I don't agree about this in 100%, but I added your page to my bookmarks and hope to see more interesting articles in the future... Dave…

Interesting topic… I’m working in this industry myself and I don’t agree about this in 100%, but I added your page to my bookmarks and hope to see more interesting articles in the future…

]]> By: Mashable* » Social Search Heats Up: Microsoft and Eurekster in Talks http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-27427 Mashable* » Social Search Heats Up: Microsoft and Eurekster in Talks Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:17:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-27427 [...] But it’s not just social search: there are hints that Microsoft may cotton on to revenue sharing, too. The article revisits MSN Search and Win - in many ways, this is actually a paid-to-search model. Unfortunately, this isn’t quite the right approach - it makes more sense to pay users to improve your search results (see also my thoughts on paying del.icio.us users, then connect the dots). It’ll be interesting to see what happens to the other social search startups - Wink, Jookster, Prefound, Filangy et al - now that the big guns are moving in. And of course community is Google’s biggest weakness: will they ever make a social search play? [...] [...] But it’s not just social search: there are hints that Microsoft may cotton on to revenue sharing, too. The article revisits MSN Search and Win - in many ways, this is actually a paid-to-search model. Unfortunately, this isn’t quite the right approach - it makes more sense to pay users to improve your search results (see also my thoughts on paying del.icio.us users, then connect the dots). It’ll be interesting to see what happens to the other social search startups - Wink, Jookster, Prefound, Filangy et al - now that the big guns are moving in. And of course community is Google’s biggest weakness: will they ever make a social search play? [...]

]]> By: Mashable* http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-21776 Mashable* Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:25:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-21776 <strong>PreFound - Social Search + Revenue Sharing...</strong> I’ve been a big proponent of revenue sharing and social search, so it’s interesting to see these two themes come together in the form of Prefound. From the site: PreFound.com allows human users to (a) see what other humans have gathere... PreFound - Social Search + Revenue Sharing…

I’ve been a big proponent of revenue sharing and social search, so it’s interesting to see these two themes come together in the form of Prefound. From the site:
PreFound.com allows human users to (a) see what other humans have gathere…

]]> By: Mashable* » PreFound - Social Search + Revenue Sharing http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-21774 Mashable* » PreFound - Social Search + Revenue Sharing Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:21:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-21774 [...] So what are the long term prospects for Prefound? Not brilliant, but not terrible either. My feeling is that Yahoo will be aggressive in the social search space and their acquisition of del.icio.us provides the perfect mechanism for that to happen. What’s more, del.icio.us takes advantage of the work users are already doing for selfish reasons (to store interesting links) - this means the motivation to bookmark pages is much clearer. And if del.icio.us lets you add your Yahoo Publisher Network ID to your pages, the motivation will be stronger still. [...] [...] So what are the long term prospects for Prefound? Not brilliant, but not terrible either. My feeling is that Yahoo will be aggressive in the social search space and their acquisition of del.icio.us provides the perfect mechanism for that to happen. What’s more, del.icio.us takes advantage of the work users are already doing for selfish reasons (to store interesting links) - this means the motivation to bookmark pages is much clearer. And if del.icio.us lets you add your Yahoo Publisher Network ID to your pages, the motivation will be stronger still. [...]

]]> By: Hi. I’m Black! » links for 2006-01-29 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-12167 Hi. I’m Black! » links for 2006-01-29 Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:56:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-12167 [...] Del.icio.us Competitors Paying Users Get paid to send traffic to del.icio.us competitors? Eh, maybe… (tags: delious news) Technorati Tags: delicious software Tags [...] [...] Del.icio.us Competitors Paying Users Get paid to send traffic to del.icio.us competitors? Eh, maybe… (tags: delious news) Technorati Tags: delicious software Tags [...]

]]> By: DoBump http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-11858 DoBump Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:11:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-11858 If you do not have the first mover advantage then you got to pony up the money to attract attention. Sad, but a fact of life. Of course, I am just a tiny bit biased, since I am in a similar "industry" myself, since DoBump offers paid forum posters for new or struggling forums. If you do not have the first mover advantage then you got to pony up the money to attract attention. Sad, but a fact of life.

Of course, I am just a tiny bit biased, since I am in a similar “industry” myself, since DoBump offers paid forum posters for new or struggling forums.

]]> By: GetSpot Now » Can $ Buy Social ? http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-11632 GetSpot Now » Can $ Buy Social ? Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:52:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-11632 [...] Understand from TechCrunch that Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users , Simpy did it by allow user to put google ads on their user page , Rawsugar is paying directly to user base on popularity  , its seem like the fight between social bookmarking been pushing to another new level. [...] [...] Understand from TechCrunch that Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users , Simpy did it by allow user to put google ads on their user page , Rawsugar is paying directly to user base on popularity  , its seem like the fight between social bookmarking been pushing to another new level. [...]

]]> By: Lucrative tips » Blog Archive » Share bookmarks for money ! http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10918 Lucrative tips » Blog Archive » Share bookmarks for money ! Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:14:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10918 [...] found on Techcrunch [...] [...] found on Techcrunch [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch » Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users » Web 2.0 Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10848 TechCrunch » Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users » Web 2.0 Blog Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:58:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10848 [...] If you’re a big user of tagging sites like Blinklist or del.icio.us then take a look at this post from Michael Arrington on TechCrunch. [...] [...] If you’re a big user of tagging sites like Blinklist or del.icio.us then take a look at this post from Michael Arrington on TechCrunch. [...]

]]> By: SA Blog :: Adsense Revenue Sharing :: January :: 2006 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10824 SA Blog :: Adsense Revenue Sharing :: January :: 2006 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:46:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10824 [...] According to Techcrunch.com, Simpy is paying 100% of the proceeds from Google to the user for any ads on the page and Rawsugar are paying the top twenty “directories” (user bookmark pages) between $25 and $500 per month. [...] [...] According to Techcrunch.com, Simpy is paying 100% of the proceeds from Google to the user for any ads on the page and Rawsugar are paying the top twenty “directories” (user bookmark pages) between $25 and $500 per month. [...]

]]> By: blackrimglasses.com » TechCrunch » Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10793 blackrimglasses.com » TechCrunch » Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:38:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10793 [...] TechCrunch » Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users let us try to monetize by Black Rim Glasses | posted in running Trackback URL | Comment RSS Feed Tag at del.icio.us | Incoming links [...] [...] TechCrunch » Del.icio.us Competitors Try Paying Users let us try to monetize by Black Rim Glasses | posted in running Trackback URL | Comment RSS Feed Tag at del.icio.us | Incoming links [...]

]]> By: eszter http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10790 eszter Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:15:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10790 Re the comment highlighting, I think it's a nice touch, but I think it would help if you had a note right after "X Comments" in the beginning of the comments section explaining what a highlighted comment stands for. This will help those who are new to the site and don't know who its author is understand why some comments are highlighted. Re the comment highlighting, I think it’s a nice touch, but I think it would help if you had a note right after “X Comments” in the beginning of the comments section explaining what a highlighted comment stands for. This will help those who are new to the site and don’t know who its author is understand why some comments are highlighted.

]]> By: Bill Lazar http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10777 Bill Lazar Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:17:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10777 A couple of clarifications: First, the RawSugar Rewards program is, as I mentioned on Pete's post, a way to share with our members before we introduce advertising later this year. Second, while we're certainly bigger than Otis's one man side project we're hardly a big company at leass than a dozen nor are we searching for a business model. For more details on the latter watch for news from Demo in a week. A couple of clarifications:

First, the RawSugar Rewards program is, as I mentioned on Pete’s post, a way to share with our members before we introduce advertising later this year.

Second, while we’re certainly bigger than Otis’s one man side project we’re hardly a big company at leass than a dozen nor are we searching for a business model. For more details on the latter watch for news from Demo in a week.

]]> By: Otis http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10772 Otis Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:22:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10772 Kevin: it's not all about money. That is why I pointed out that Simpy == 1 person's side project. For me, this is more about experimenting and learning about human behaviour than making money. In the long run, I think that's more valuable in life. I already learned that people freak out and become super-suspicious when money enters the picture. :) Michael: that is partly it. I prefer it this way - I don't need to do any work, I don't pay anything to anyone, people earn whatever they earn, and I don't even need to know how much they earn. I think the important thing to see here, at least in Simpy's case, is that Simpy is not paying anyone! RawSugar is. Simpy is not - Google is. I simply make it possible. Kevin: it’s not all about money. That is why I pointed out that Simpy == 1 person’s side project. For me, this is more about experimenting and learning about human behaviour than making money. In the long run, I think that’s more valuable in life. I already learned that people freak out and become super-suspicious when money enters the picture. :)

Michael: that is partly it. I prefer it this way - I don’t need to do any work, I don’t pay anything to anyone, people earn whatever they earn, and I don’t even need to know how much they earn.

I think the important thing to see here, at least in Simpy’s case, is that Simpy is not paying anyone! RawSugar is. Simpy is not - Google is. I simply make it possible.

]]> By: Chris Yeh http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10736 Chris Yeh Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:58:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10736 To paraphrase Isaac Asimov, "Paying users is the last refuge of the incompetent." Simply tacking on paying users strikes me as a painful reminder of the excesses of the tail end of the last boom. If a user experience isn't compelling without the cash, the small amounts a typical consumer service can afford to pay simply aren't that effective. To paraphrase Isaac Asimov, “Paying users is the last refuge of the incompetent.” Simply tacking on paying users strikes me as a painful reminder of the excesses of the tail end of the last boom.

If a user experience isn’t compelling without the cash, the small amounts a typical consumer service can afford to pay simply aren’t that effective.

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10730 Michael Arrington Sun, 29 Jan 2006 06:10:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10730 Kevin - #25 - Since you are inserting your own adsense code, Simpy actually never even touches the money. I suspect this is more a response to the work that would be required in tracking and paying out users "share" if they were to try to take a percentage. Kevin - #25 - Since you are inserting your own adsense code, Simpy actually never even touches the money. I suspect this is more a response to the work that would be required in tracking and paying out users “share” if they were to try to take a percentage.

]]> By: Kevin Burton http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10726 Kevin Burton Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:27:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10726 The thing I find shocking is that Simpy decided to give 100% to their user base. This just doesn't make a lot of sense it's a reasonable expectation for Simpy to at least take a cut to cover hosting costs. Kevin The thing I find shocking is that Simpy decided to give 100% to their user base.

This just doesn’t make a lot of sense it’s a reasonable expectation for Simpy to at least take a cut to cover hosting costs.

Kevin

]]> By: Ookles Blog » “robust, socially accurate, and cheap” http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10723 Ookles Blog » “robust, socially accurate, and cheap” Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:58:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10723 [...] Bonus link, Michael Arrington today highlights two del.icio.us competitors who want to pay taggers in return for the value they create–23 comments so far reflect lots of interest elsewhere. [...] [...] Bonus link, Michael Arrington today highlights two del.icio.us competitors who want to pay taggers in return for the value they create–23 comments so far reflect lots of interest elsewhere. [...]

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10703 Michael Arrington Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:37:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10703 Ok, cool. I'll stick with the highlights for now. Ok, cool. I’ll stick with the highlights for now.

]]> By: Topix.net Weblog http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10695 Topix.net Weblog Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:39:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10695 <strong>Is it a value chain or an attempt to buy community?...</strong> Mike Arrington asks "Is [paying users for contributed content] a gimick to generate attention or is it a viable long term strategy to generate user adoption?" Sometimes when a web model takes off the economics flip 180 degrees. Instead of...... Is it a value chain or an attempt to buy community?…

Mike Arrington asks “Is [paying users for contributed content] a gimick to generate attention or is it a viable long term strategy to generate user adoption?” Sometimes when a web model takes off the economics flip 180 degrees. Instead of……

]]> By: Mat http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10693 Mat Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:05:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10693 highlights = good highlights = good

]]> By: Mike http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10687 Mike Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:50:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10687 Michael | I really do like the highlighting of your comments Pete | While I do agree that there are network effects in the social bookmarking world, I would say that they are 1) not as strong as in some other segments like online auctions for example and 2) the switching costs are also quite low given that users can simply export and import bookmarks. Lastly, in a network effects driven business it all does not matter until one has reached the tipping point. I don't think del.icio.us is there yet. They have a great chance of getting there first, but we at www.blinklist.com are quite confident that it is still very early before anyone is close to hitting the tipping point. Michael | I really do like the highlighting of your comments

Pete | While I do agree that there are network effects in the social bookmarking world, I would say that they are 1) not as strong as in some other segments like online auctions for example and 2) the switching costs are also quite low given that users can simply export and import bookmarks.

Lastly, in a network effects driven business it all does not matter until one has reached the tipping point. I don’t think del.icio.us is there yet. They have a great chance of getting there first, but we at http://www.blinklist.com are quite confident that it is still very early before anyone is close to hitting the tipping point.

]]> By: Alex Barnett http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10685 Alex Barnett Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:27:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10685 imho, your highlighted comments is a good idea... imho, your highlighted comments is a good idea…

]]> By: Steffen Rusitschka’s Blog » Blog Archive » del.icio.us alternatives pay users http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10684 Steffen Rusitschka’s Blog » Blog Archive » del.icio.us alternatives pay users Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:20:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/28/delicious-competitors-paying-users/#comment-10684 [...] Also check out the TechCrunch posting on that issue. [...] [...] Also check out the TechCrunch posting on that issue. [...]

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