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		<title>By: Indigo的数字镜像 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1324929</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo的数字镜像 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1) 作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1) 作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: giornalismi possibili &#187; Daylife: news aggregator puntuale e &#8216;umano&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-665208</link>
		<dc:creator>giornalismi possibili &#187; Daylife: news aggregator puntuale e &#8216;umano&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Parte da New York il progetto beta di Daylife, nuovo news aggregator le cui scelte sono in parte curate da redattori in carne ed ossa. Con una prima cover story assai puntuale: le nuove disposizioni postali Usa firmate prima di Natale dal Presidente Bush. Le quali danno adito e spazio alle autorità per indiscriminati controlli sulle comuni missive senza specifico mandato, contrariamente a quanto invece stabilito dalle norme precedenti. Mentre la Casa Bianca e il vice-presidente dei Servizi Postali negano alcuna modifica in tal senso, e la ACLU incalza per chiarire la questione, torna senz&#8217;altro utile scorrere titoli e sommari delle varie fonti online che vanno seguendo la vicenda. Con una grafica ben curata e gradevole, Daylife offre rapide associazioni tra testo e multimedia, un bookmark interno e altre opzioni interessanti. Tuttavia, fanno giustamente notare i sapienti editor di TechCruch, il sito arriva un anno dopo quelli di diretti rivali, tipo Gather.com, Inform.com, NewsVine e ovviamente Google News. Senza contare che non ci sono RSS feed nè spazi per i commenti degli utenti, pur se è plausibile a ciò si porterà presto riparo. Di sicuro il settore appare saturo, ma come per Newstrust, l&#8217;enfasi sul fattore umano potrebbe risultare cruciale. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Parte da New York il progetto beta di Daylife, nuovo news aggregator le cui scelte sono in parte curate da redattori in carne ed ossa. Con una prima cover story assai puntuale: le nuove disposizioni postali Usa firmate prima di Natale dal Presidente Bush. Le quali danno adito e spazio alle autorità per indiscriminati controlli sulle comuni missive senza specifico mandato, contrariamente a quanto invece stabilito dalle norme precedenti. Mentre la Casa Bianca e il vice-presidente dei Servizi Postali negano alcuna modifica in tal senso, e la ACLU incalza per chiarire la questione, torna senz&#8217;altro utile scorrere titoli e sommari delle varie fonti online che vanno seguendo la vicenda. Con una grafica ben curata e gradevole, Daylife offre rapide associazioni tra testo e multimedia, un bookmark interno e altre opzioni interessanti. Tuttavia, fanno giustamente notare i sapienti editor di TechCruch, il sito arriva un anno dopo quelli di diretti rivali, tipo Gather.com, Inform.com, NewsVine e ovviamente Google News. Senza contare che non ci sono RSS feed nè spazi per i commenti degli utenti, pur se è plausibile a ciò si porterà presto riparo. Di sicuro il settore appare saturo, ma come per Newstrust, l&#8217;enfasi sul fattore umano potrebbe risultare cruciale. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dailywireless.org &#187; DayLife</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-661428</link>
		<dc:creator>dailywireless.org &#187; DayLife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Arrington of TechCrunch, an investor in Daylife, pans it in a review on his site.  Daylife enters the market about a year after a slew of other competitors came out with their products. Gather.com, Inform.com, NewsVine and Topix all have competing products. Google News reigns over all of them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Arrington of TechCrunch, an investor in Daylife, pans it in a review on his site.  Daylife enters the market about a year after a slew of other competitors came out with their products. Gather.com, Inform.com, NewsVine and Topix all have competing products. Google News reigns over all of them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Daylifeローンチ。長く険しい坂を登り始める</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-660148</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Daylifeローンチ。長く険しい坂を登り始める</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] しかし、Daylifeはライバルが多く、各社が山ほどサービスリリースした後での市場参入となる。Gather.com、Inform.com、NewsVine、Topixといった顔ぶれが競合サービスを提供しており、それに1年遅れをとったかたちだ。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] しかし、Daylifeはライバルが多く、各社が山ほどサービスリリースした後での市場参入となる。Gather.com、Inform.com、NewsVine、Topixといった顔ぶれが競合サービスを提供しており、それに1年遅れをとったかたちだ。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daylife launches, Starts Very Long Uphill Climb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-659873</link>
		<dc:creator>Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daylife launches, Starts Very Long Uphill Climb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But Daylife enters the market about a year after a slew of other competitors came out with their products. Gather.com, Inform.com, NewsVine and Topix all have competing products. Google News reigns over all of them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But Daylife enters the market about a year after a slew of other competitors came out with their products. Gather.com, Inform.com, NewsVine and Topix all have competing products. Google News reigns over all of them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sophiajia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-228029</link>
		<dc:creator>sophiajia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the moment in China, the economic benefit of real estate is extremely considerable. However, this kind of high income is not sustainable. The essence of this kind of income relies on its nature of being essential commodities to carry on the monopoly in order to gain the excess profit. Approximately there are reasons of this excess profit. One is the “city charm”that causes the monopoly of realty industry, and the other is tied judgment to values that causes the monopoly. A wrong understanding about real estate is that the view of real estate products are essential commodities is dissimilated to the view that real estate products of one region are essential commodities. Furthermore, there are two necessary conditions for the real estate products of one region to become the essential commodities. The first is that the population condition can meet the long-term maintenance or even can grow stably. Furthermore, the overall income level can grow unceasingly and also the growth of income is over the growth of the price of real estate products. However, these two necessary conditions can not be met. After all, the stably increasing population and the stably increasing product’s price can not be realized. That is to say using high real estate price to maintain is impossible and the real estate is the mainstay of the economy is meaningless and lack practical support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the moment in China, the economic benefit of real estate is extremely considerable. However, this kind of high income is not sustainable. The essence of this kind of income relies on its nature of being essential commodities to carry on the monopoly in order to gain the excess profit. Approximately there are reasons of this excess profit. One is the “city charm”that causes the monopoly of realty industry, and the other is tied judgment to values that causes the monopoly. A wrong understanding about real estate is that the view of real estate products are essential commodities is dissimilated to the view that real estate products of one region are essential commodities. Furthermore, there are two necessary conditions for the real estate products of one region to become the essential commodities. The first is that the population condition can meet the long-term maintenance or even can grow stably. Furthermore, the overall income level can grow unceasingly and also the growth of income is over the growth of the price of real estate products. However, these two necessary conditions can not be met. After all, the stably increasing population and the stably increasing product’s price can not be realized. That is to say using high real estate price to maintain is impossible and the real estate is the mainstay of the economy is meaningless and lack practical support.</p>
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		<title>By: sophiajia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-228027</link>
		<dc:creator>sophiajia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all over the world, a country&#039;s economy develops from behindhand to developed is all a process of urbanization. The significant indicator is that the proportion of urban population is increasing among the total population. Take the British for instance. Its urbanization level is reached 90%. Yusof, an expert of the World Bank, believes that since the 1980s nearly10% of China&#039;s economic growth gains from the process of urbanization. Looking to the future, China can achieve at least the same contributive rate of urbanization to economic growth. The income of farmers is too low, but the house prices are too high, so is it possible to increase the income of farmers so that the farmers can afford houses in cities? This is the absolutely impossible. So the Chinese urbanization is not a real reason for the substantial increasing of house price but the impetus of dropping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all over the world, a country&#8217;s economy develops from behindhand to developed is all a process of urbanization. The significant indicator is that the proportion of urban population is increasing among the total population. Take the British for instance. Its urbanization level is reached 90%. Yusof, an expert of the World Bank, believes that since the 1980s nearly10% of China&#8217;s economic growth gains from the process of urbanization. Looking to the future, China can achieve at least the same contributive rate of urbanization to economic growth. The income of farmers is too low, but the house prices are too high, so is it possible to increase the income of farmers so that the farmers can afford houses in cities? This is the absolutely impossible. So the Chinese urbanization is not a real reason for the substantial increasing of house price but the impetus of dropping.</p>
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		<title>By: 职吧·搞搞震 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-179551</link>
		<dc:creator>职吧·搞搞震 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1)作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1)作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 不死鸟~来自地狱的男人 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-164936</link>
		<dc:creator>不死鸟~来自地狱的男人 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1) 作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1) 作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: credit check free</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-52105</link>
		<dc:creator>credit check free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 00:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blog中文翻译 : 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-10146</link>
		<dc:creator>blog中文翻译 : 驾驭集体智慧的五个有效方法</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1) 作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1) 作为难以再生数据的集中地：这是Web2.0的经典概念，而且得到了那些成功的先驱们的证明。就像Wikipedia, eBay，还有那些完全靠用户贡献内容的服务。它们始剩余的空间无法形成一个足够的市场，这对于新的玩家来说是一个主要的限制因素。现在还有许多像 digg 和 del.icio.us 这样可怕的软件在等待成长。所以不要在等它完美了，拿出你的集体智慧技术，赶紧让用户把他们认为有用的数据放进来。你只需要小心一点并避免定位拥塞 ，就像那些个体制作新闻的服务。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Biggum</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9414</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Biggum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a huge part of the equation here that people are missing: the public radio devoted audience.  American Public Media Group (Minnesota Public Radio with a newer fancy name) which started gather.com, has a devoted following of 7 million listeners.  (AMPG will use the money raised in this for profit venture to feed public radio content--it&#039;s a nice little revenue circle that&#039;s completely legal.)  That&#039;s why they are getting funding -- this audience means huge dollars for investors.  

Yes it looks like Myspace (since a good number of the people working at gather did work at myspace) but Myspace caters to a completely different crowd then the over-educated, higher earning, well-informed public radio listening audience:  in other words, people who can command higher ad dollars.

I wouldn&#039;t judge Gather.com&#039;s success yet just based on what everyone is calling poor design -- it&#039;s in Beta testing right now, anyway, and design can change.  What I would watch is the number of ads popping up all over public radio, especially as &quot;underwriters&quot; of popular shows like Marketplace.  

My belief is that we have yet to see the wild card of this Web site.  If on-air personalities like Garrison Keillor start telling everone that he &quot;gathers&quot;, who knows the strange effect this will have on the marketplace. Combine that with getting out the message that when you support gather.com, you are supporting public programming, you are going to see a lot of loyalists (the same ones who write their annual checks to public radio) making sure that if they do post a blog, that a copy of it gets onto Gather.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a huge part of the equation here that people are missing: the public radio devoted audience.  American Public Media Group (Minnesota Public Radio with a newer fancy name) which started gather.com, has a devoted following of 7 million listeners.  (AMPG will use the money raised in this for profit venture to feed public radio content&#8211;it&#8217;s a nice little revenue circle that&#8217;s completely legal.)  That&#8217;s why they are getting funding &#8212; this audience means huge dollars for investors.  </p>
<p>Yes it looks like Myspace (since a good number of the people working at gather did work at myspace) but Myspace caters to a completely different crowd then the over-educated, higher earning, well-informed public radio listening audience:  in other words, people who can command higher ad dollars.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t judge Gather.com&#8217;s success yet just based on what everyone is calling poor design &#8212; it&#8217;s in Beta testing right now, anyway, and design can change.  What I would watch is the number of ads popping up all over public radio, especially as &#8220;underwriters&#8221; of popular shows like Marketplace.  </p>
<p>My belief is that we have yet to see the wild card of this Web site.  If on-air personalities like Garrison Keillor start telling everone that he &#8220;gathers&#8221;, who knows the strange effect this will have on the marketplace. Combine that with getting out the message that when you support gather.com, you are supporting public programming, you are going to see a lot of loyalists (the same ones who write their annual checks to public radio) making sure that if they do post a blog, that a copy of it gets onto Gather.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gerace (Gather CEO)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9403</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gerace (Gather CEO)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/

Hey Michael- Thanks for the constructive criticism.  We take these thoughts seriously.  The team at Gather knows we have a lot of work to do on the service (and we are hard at work doing just that). 

That said, just two months into our public beta, our community has grown past 10,000 people and is doubling every month.  Gather members are engaged, publishing, commenting, and connecting at an increasing rate.  Something is working well on Gather.com, all the challenges aside.

A couple of specific thoughts:

1) We agree on the interface:  We are working on ways to simplify it for our new users and make it more customizable for regular users.   

2) Tags v. taxonomy: We wanted to try both methods of organization because our members skew older than the MySpace crowd.  We wanted to see how they reacted if we offered a choice.  We have finished that evaluation  Tags win even for this audience.  More to come on that front with our next release.

3) On revenue share: I respectfully disagree.  Advertising revenue in the space is climbing quickly.  Demand for ad space is outstripping supply.  This is shown most powerfully by climbing CPC&#039;s. 

We simply believe that we can take a share of the billions that will be spent on online advertising for individual publishers, helping them to monetize their content online.  

My prior company, Be Free, had great success capturing a share of advertising revenue and sharing it with &quot;the long tail&quot; as well.  Be Free was one of the largest &quot;affiliate&quot; or &quot;pay-for-performance&quot; marketing companies in the late 1990&#039;s.  (Be Free went public in 1999, completed a secondary in 2000, and was sold to ValueClick NASDAQ:VCLK in a 50-50 merger in 2002.  It remains a profitable part of the ValueClick family).  By aggregating many, many smaller publishers, we created a very compelling sales channel for advertisers.   

This is a different model, to be sure.  We are excited, however, to see numbers even in this very early stage that are trending as we expected them to.  On this front, I suppose, nothing succeeds like success.  Our first few writers that start making real cash on Gather will be the proof point.  

To clarify one question raised above in comments: Gather has raised a total of $9M to date, $3M in December 2004 and $6M with our round announced this month.   The oft-cited $7M figure quotes articles showing that one of our investors (American Public Media Group, a public radio organization) invested $1M in the company and adds that to our just announced investment round.  That $1M was part of the $3M invested in December, 2004. 

I would love to talk more about your thoughts anytime and look forward to showing you an improved Gather in less than a month.</description>
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<p>Hey Michael- Thanks for the constructive criticism.  We take these thoughts seriously.  The team at Gather knows we have a lot of work to do on the service (and we are hard at work doing just that). </p>
<p>That said, just two months into our public beta, our community has grown past 10,000 people and is doubling every month.  Gather members are engaged, publishing, commenting, and connecting at an increasing rate.  Something is working well on Gather.com, all the challenges aside.</p>
<p>A couple of specific thoughts:</p>
<p>1) We agree on the interface:  We are working on ways to simplify it for our new users and make it more customizable for regular users.   </p>
<p>2) Tags v. taxonomy: We wanted to try both methods of organization because our members skew older than the MySpace crowd.  We wanted to see how they reacted if we offered a choice.  We have finished that evaluation  Tags win even for this audience.  More to come on that front with our next release.</p>
<p>3) On revenue share: I respectfully disagree.  Advertising revenue in the space is climbing quickly.  Demand for ad space is outstripping supply.  This is shown most powerfully by climbing CPC&#8217;s. </p>
<p>We simply believe that we can take a share of the billions that will be spent on online advertising for individual publishers, helping them to monetize their content online.  </p>
<p>My prior company, Be Free, had great success capturing a share of advertising revenue and sharing it with &#8220;the long tail&#8221; as well.  Be Free was one of the largest &#8220;affiliate&#8221; or &#8220;pay-for-performance&#8221; marketing companies in the late 1990&#8217;s.  (Be Free went public in 1999, completed a secondary in 2000, and was sold to ValueClick NASDAQ:VCLK in a 50-50 merger in 2002.  It remains a profitable part of the ValueClick family).  By aggregating many, many smaller publishers, we created a very compelling sales channel for advertisers.   </p>
<p>This is a different model, to be sure.  We are excited, however, to see numbers even in this very early stage that are trending as we expected them to.  On this front, I suppose, nothing succeeds like success.  Our first few writers that start making real cash on Gather will be the proof point.  </p>
<p>To clarify one question raised above in comments: Gather has raised a total of $9M to date, $3M in December 2004 and $6M with our round announced this month.   The oft-cited $7M figure quotes articles showing that one of our investors (American Public Media Group, a public radio organization) invested $1M in the company and adds that to our just announced investment round.  That $1M was part of the $3M invested in December, 2004. </p>
<p>I would love to talk more about your thoughts anytime and look forward to showing you an improved Gather in less than a month.</p>
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		<title>By: Publishing 2.0 &#187; Web 2.0 Is Not Media 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9304</link>
		<dc:creator>Publishing 2.0 &#187; Web 2.0 Is Not Media 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There may or may not be a Web 2.0 crash coming, as Steve Rubel has predicted, but there&#8217;s certainly blood in the water, with Yahoo&#8217;s earnings miss, Gather.com&#8217;s bad reviews, the demise of SearchFox, and the gathering buzz about an impending crash. Steve thinks a key factor is that &#8220;online advertising isn&#8217;t growing as fast as we would all like to think or hope&#8221; &#8212; online advertising is still on a steep upward curve, but Steve&#8217;s probably right that there&#8217;s not enough to go around, and the market will have to get rid of the Web 2.0 chafe. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There may or may not be a Web 2.0 crash coming, as Steve Rubel has predicted, but there&#8217;s certainly blood in the water, with Yahoo&#8217;s earnings miss, Gather.com&#8217;s bad reviews, the demise of SearchFox, and the gathering buzz about an impending crash. Steve thinks a key factor is that &#8220;online advertising isn&#8217;t growing as fast as we would all like to think or hope&#8221; &#8212; online advertising is still on a steep upward curve, but Steve&#8217;s probably right that there&#8217;s not enough to go around, and the market will have to get rid of the Web 2.0 chafe. [...]</p>
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		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9176</link>
		<dc:creator>Junto Boyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CITIZEN JOURNALISM GONE BAD?... GATHER GETS $6M AND ASSOCIATED CONTENT GETS $5.4M...&lt;/strong&gt;

Some of the buzz around the blogosphere is created by the heavy knocking sound on Gather.com&#039;s (is it Gather, which is on the website, or Gather.com?) business model and a lot of questions about its future. They closed a $6 million round from Jim Manz...</description>
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<p>Some of the buzz around the blogosphere is created by the heavy knocking sound on Gather.com&#8217;s (is it Gather, which is on the website, or Gather.com?) business model and a lot of questions about its future. They closed a $6 million round from Jim Manz&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tongue Trip &#187; Gather - Editor Knows Best</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9165</link>
		<dc:creator>Tongue Trip &#187; Gather - Editor Knows Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lastly, I&#8217;m not sure why some bloggers have reacted so negatively to the use of categories. It seems like a number of sites have been able to combine tags with pre-defined topics/categories (see squidoo and etsy) without generating much in the way of negative comment. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BigPig</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9132</link>
		<dc:creator>BigPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsbump.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;News Bump&lt;/a&gt; is one of the best of these types of sites that I&#039;ve seen. It has a much cleaner interface than Gather, NewVine etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.newsbump.net" rel="nofollow">News Bump</a> is one of the best of these types of sites that I&#8217;ve seen. It has a much cleaner interface than Gather, NewVine etc.</p>
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		<dc:creator>web2.wsj2.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Five Great Ways to Harness Collective Intelligence...&lt;/strong&gt;

Over the recent weekend I read Ellyssa Kroski&#039;s superbly researched and written new article, The Hype and Hullabaloo of Web 2.0.  It&#039;s a must-read piece whether you&#039;re a die-hard aficionado or a battle-hardened detractor.  The article is es...</description>
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<p>Over the recent weekend I read Ellyssa Kroski&#8217;s superbly researched and written new article, The Hype and Hullabaloo of Web 2.0.  It&#8217;s a must-read piece whether you&#8217;re a die-hard aficionado or a battle-hardened detractor.  The article is es&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kareem Mayan's Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kareem Mayan's Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Gather.com Has a Marketing Problem, not a Product Problem...&lt;/strong&gt;

I was chatting with a buddy on IM today about how Gather.com is getting raked over the coals by some bloggers following a story on them in the Boston Globe (reg may be required). Looking over Michael Arrington&#039;s complaints about......</description>
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<p>I was chatting with a buddy on IM today about how Gather.com is getting raked over the coals by some bloggers following a story on them in the Boston Globe (reg may be required). Looking over Michael Arrington&#8217;s complaints about&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spontaneous Orders &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gather not special enough for the big boys</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9065</link>
		<dc:creator>Spontaneous Orders &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gather not special enough for the big boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New cit j site Gather gets no love from the blogosphere&#8217;s top pundits. TechCrunch doesn&#8217;t like the design or the rigid taxonomy, and doesn&#8217;t think the revenue sharing will work. Matthew Ingram says I’ve checked the site out several times, and apart from a garish and cluttered design that I find hard on the eyes, I don’t see much to make it stand out from the crowd — and it is a crowd. Jason Calacanis snarks on a Boston Globe article about Gather that dares to not mention WIN &#8230;. yeah, some day you&#8217;ll be able to make living from blogging&#8211;it&#8217;s crazy! That someday happen a couple of years ago, but who&#8217;s counting right? Who wrote this story anyway?!?! And Om Malik follows They [Gather.com] will pay bloggers/contributors money to write, and if the story is popular, then the contributors will make a lot of money. Just the sort of thing that Jason and Nick did two years ago, without venture capital funding. Gotta say it&#8217;s not at all like what Gawker and WIN do. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New cit j site Gather gets no love from the blogosphere&#8217;s top pundits. TechCrunch doesn&#8217;t like the design or the rigid taxonomy, and doesn&#8217;t think the revenue sharing will work. Matthew Ingram says I’ve checked the site out several times, and apart from a garish and cluttered design that I find hard on the eyes, I don’t see much to make it stand out from the crowd — and it is a crowd. Jason Calacanis snarks on a Boston Globe article about Gather that dares to not mention WIN &#8230;. yeah, some day you&#8217;ll be able to make living from blogging&#8211;it&#8217;s crazy! That someday happen a couple of years ago, but who&#8217;s counting right? Who wrote this story anyway?!?! And Om Malik follows They [Gather.com] will pay bloggers/contributors money to write, and if the story is popular, then the contributors will make a lot of money. Just the sort of thing that Jason and Nick did two years ago, without venture capital funding. Gotta say it&#8217;s not at all like what Gawker and WIN do. [...]</p>
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		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9040</link>
		<dc:creator>the j. botter weblog &#187; Gather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mike pretty much hits the nail on the head with his post about Gather.com. I heard about the site a few days back, and like always, I headed over to check it out.  Within thirty seconds, I was already clicking off the site and heading back to Bloglines.  The design is too cluttered and hard to read, and like everyone else, I had no desire trying to adapt my browsing and reading style when it would take a ton of effort to do so. If your site has a poor user interface and is hard to discern where the content actually is, you&#8217;re going to have a rough go of it in trying to get readers to not only check it out once, but keep returning.  The real money on the web lies not in getting thousands of people to your site in one day but in keeping 30 to 40 percent of those eyes returning to your site on a daily basis. Having dedicated and loyal readers will often translate into bigger advertising dollars because firms realize you have a core readership of people who will check out your site every single day rather than hitting it once and never visiting again. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mike pretty much hits the nail on the head with his post about Gather.com. I heard about the site a few days back, and like always, I headed over to check it out.  Within thirty seconds, I was already clicking off the site and heading back to Bloglines.  The design is too cluttered and hard to read, and like everyone else, I had no desire trying to adapt my browsing and reading style when it would take a ton of effort to do so. If your site has a poor user interface and is hard to discern where the content actually is, you&#8217;re going to have a rough go of it in trying to get readers to not only check it out once, but keep returning.  The real money on the web lies not in getting thousands of people to your site in one day but in keeping 30 to 40 percent of those eyes returning to your site on a daily basis. Having dedicated and loyal readers will often translate into bigger advertising dollars because firms realize you have a core readership of people who will check out your site every single day rather than hitting it once and never visiting again. [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Rundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree Lawrence, what could possibly warrant that large of a staff where the entire site is made up of *user-generated content*.</description>
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		<title>By: Rod Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/16/the-gathercom-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9026</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Err - Dennis H., I think you&#039;ve missed the point of blogging. Seeing as this is Michaels personal web2.0 blog, his affection for something is really the *only* criteria for selection. As we say here in North America, trolling blog comments is &quot;Juvenile Bollocks.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Err &#8211; Dennis H., I think you&#8217;ve missed the point of blogging. Seeing as this is Michaels personal web2.0 blog, his affection for something is really the *only* criteria for selection. As we say here in North America, trolling blog comments is &#8220;Juvenile Bollocks.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bostondann</title>
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		<dc:creator>bostondann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho Hum - another social blogging/tagging/networking site. I do not believe the overall market is saturated - rather that not enough people have entered the realm of interest to make any more of these sites worthwhile [at this time]. Besides - as Amazon.coma and its ilk have clearly demonstrated - in the digital world there are no &#039;Max Occupancy&#039; rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho Hum &#8211; another social blogging/tagging/networking site. I do not believe the overall market is saturated &#8211; rather that not enough people have entered the realm of interest to make any more of these sites worthwhile [at this time]. Besides &#8211; as Amazon.coma and its ilk have clearly demonstrated &#8211; in the digital world there are no &#8216;Max Occupancy&#8217; rules.</p>
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		<title>By: lawrence coburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawrence coburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really understand the 23 people and $7M in funding either.  Unless 18 of those folks are dedicated to direct ad sales, this sort of business just doesn&#039;t justify this overhead IMHO.

But I guess I&#039;ll break from the crowd and say that I think it&#039;s a neat concept.  I don&#039;t see it as just another blogging platform.  The focus is more on the article than the blog - which makes it more collaborative.  As a reader you might go to Gather to check out recent articles from a number of your favorite authors - a subtle difference from going to a blog to check out recent posts from a blogger.  Not quite a wiki, but closer.

And as far as the revenue sharing - say what you want, but these guys are still ahead of the curve.  How many Web 2.0 sites are giving back to their contributors?  And unlike the blog networks, Gather&#039;s writers are not handpicked superstar bloggers - they&#039;re anybody.

I think it&#039;s only a matter of time before ALL sites that rely on user-generated content will have to share the profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand the 23 people and $7M in funding either.  Unless 18 of those folks are dedicated to direct ad sales, this sort of business just doesn&#8217;t justify this overhead IMHO.</p>
<p>But I guess I&#8217;ll break from the crowd and say that I think it&#8217;s a neat concept.  I don&#8217;t see it as just another blogging platform.  The focus is more on the article than the blog &#8211; which makes it more collaborative.  As a reader you might go to Gather to check out recent articles from a number of your favorite authors &#8211; a subtle difference from going to a blog to check out recent posts from a blogger.  Not quite a wiki, but closer.</p>
<p>And as far as the revenue sharing &#8211; say what you want, but these guys are still ahead of the curve.  How many Web 2.0 sites are giving back to their contributors?  And unlike the blog networks, Gather&#8217;s writers are not handpicked superstar bloggers &#8211; they&#8217;re anybody.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s only a matter of time before ALL sites that rely on user-generated content will have to share the profits.</p>
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