Comments on: Oodle to Add Events http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:51:04 -0800 hourly 1 By: Susan http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-2595527 Susan Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:08:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-2595527 Would you like to exlarge your market to China? China Events/Exhibition/Meeting List Dear sir or madam, Greeting from China! We are Beijing Wang Lv Exhibition Consulting Center. There will behold more than 100 International Exhibition in China during 2009. We have already listed some of them on www.olimpicbeds.com, and we will increase it in the following days. Please kindly check it and let me know which one you are interested in. Http://www.olimpicbeds.com You may do following step to get more careful service: 1. Check our website and find some events you would like to take part in. 2. Tell us the exhibition you are interested but not listed on our site yet. 3. Tell us the category you are interested in. Note; we are focus on events in China. We can offers Series service during exhibition with discount price, such as: booth booking, hotel booking, tour booking, pick up service, car rental, tour guide, and other exhibitor service. Thanks and wait for your earliest convenience. Nice day Susan -- Olimpicbeds.com __________________________ http://www.olimpicbeds.com Tel: 86-10-52575258,52575011,82917918 Fax: 86-10-59222900-1462 Msn: olimpicbeds@hotmail.com Email: waizhan.01@gmail.com olimpicbeds@gmail.com Would you like to exlarge your market to China? China Events/Exhibition/Meeting List

Dear sir or madam,

Greeting from China!

We are Beijing Wang Lv Exhibition Consulting Center. There will behold more than 100 International Exhibition in China during 2009. We have already listed some of them on http://www.olimpicbeds.com, and we will increase it in the following days. Please kindly check it and let me know which one you are interested in.

Http://www.olimpicbeds.com

You may do following step to get more careful service:

1. Check our website and find some events you would like to take part in.

2. Tell us the exhibition you are interested but not listed on our site yet.

3. Tell us the category you are interested in.

Note; we are focus on events in China. We can offers Series service during exhibition with discount price, such as: booth booking, hotel booking, tour booking, pick up service, car rental, tour guide, and other exhibitor service.

Thanks and wait for your earliest convenience.

Nice day

Susan

–
Olimpicbeds.com
__________________________
http://www.olimpicbeds.com
Tel: 86-10-52575258,52575011,82917918
Fax: 86-10-59222900-1462
Msn: olimpicbeds@hotmail.com
Email: waizhan.01@gmail.com
olimpicbeds@gmail.com

]]> By: Susan http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-2579397 Susan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:18:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-2579397 Sincerely Invited you to 2009 Asia-Pacific International Chemical Engineering Exhibition. 2009 Asia-Pacific International Chemical Engineering Exhibition The Sixth Sino-US Chemical Engineering Forum Exhibition Chemical Industry Achievement Exhibition to remember the P. R. China’s 60th Anniversary Time：October 13-15, 2009 Place：China International Exhibition Center（Beijing China） Exhibition Schedule Date to Register Personnel to Attend Exhibition (the exhibition site arrangement): October 11-12, 2009 Opening Ceremony: 9:00 AM, October 13, 2009 Academic Activities and Exhibitions: October 13-15, 2009 Closing Ceremony and Withdrawal of Exhibitions: 16:00 PM, October 15th, 2009 Exhibition scope: ◆Petroleum and petrochemical equipments, products and technologies ◆Process industry and biotechnologies ◆Chemical engineering equipments and automation equipments ◆Laboratory and analysis technique, packing and storage technology ◆Agricultural chemistry ◆Pharmaceutical industry equipments and technology ◆Production line’s control system and process quality’s control equipment ◆Foodstuff industry ◆Chemical equipments and the chemical plant construction proposal ◆Primary organic and inorganic chemical raw materials ◆Environmental conservation and pollution control ◆Equipments and techniques to treat waste water ◆Coal chemicals industry, technology and materials to treat metal surface, and painting ◆Chemical mines ◆Plastics and rubber industry ◆Development of resources ◆Dyestuffs and pigments ◆Maintenance and quality assurance system ◆Equipments and articles relating to production safety, labor protection, emergency response and rescue ◆Fine chemicals and chemicals for special purpose ◆Chemical engineering science and technology and chemical engineering industrial parks Please feel free to contact with us if you are intrested in above exhibition or you can visit http://wwww.olimpicbeds.com for more. Exhibition Organization Committee, Asia-Pacific International Chemical Engineering Exhibition 2009 Contact: Susan Yu Contact address: No.306, Jinyanlong Business Building, Dewai, Xisanqi, Beijing, China, 100096 Contact tel: 86+10+52575258 mobile tel: 86-013261911505 E-mail：olimpicbeds@gmail.com http://www.olimpicbeds.com Sincerely Invited you to 2009 Asia-Pacific International Chemical Engineering Exhibition.

2009 Asia-Pacific International Chemical Engineering Exhibition
The Sixth Sino-US Chemical Engineering Forum Exhibition
Chemical Industry Achievement Exhibition to remember the P. R. China’s 60th Anniversary

Time：October 13-15, 2009
Place：China International Exhibition Center（Beijing China）

Exhibition Schedule
Date to Register Personnel to Attend Exhibition (the exhibition site arrangement): October 11-12, 2009
Opening Ceremony: 9:00 AM, October 13, 2009
Academic Activities and Exhibitions: October 13-15, 2009
Closing Ceremony and Withdrawal of Exhibitions: 16:00 PM, October 15th, 2009

Exhibition scope:
◆Petroleum and petrochemical equipments, products and technologies
◆Process industry and biotechnologies
◆Chemical engineering equipments and automation equipments
◆Laboratory and analysis technique, packing and storage technology
◆Agricultural chemistry
◆Pharmaceutical industry equipments and technology
◆Production line’s control system and process quality’s control equipment
◆Foodstuff industry
◆Chemical equipments and the chemical plant construction proposal
◆Primary organic and inorganic chemical raw materials
◆Environmental conservation and pollution control
◆Equipments and techniques to treat waste water
◆Coal chemicals industry, technology and materials to treat metal surface, and painting
◆Chemical mines
◆Plastics and rubber industry
◆Development of resources
◆Dyestuffs and pigments
◆Maintenance and quality assurance system
◆Equipments and articles relating to production safety, labor protection, emergency response and rescue
◆Fine chemicals and chemicals for special purpose
◆Chemical engineering science and technology and chemical engineering industrial parks

Please feel free to contact with us if you are intrested in above exhibition or you can visit http://wwww.olimpicbeds.com for more.

Exhibition Organization Committee,
Asia-Pacific International Chemical Engineering Exhibition 2009
Contact: Susan Yu
Contact address: No.306, Jinyanlong Business Building, Dewai, Xisanqi, Beijing, China, 100096
Contact tel: 86+10+52575258 mobile tel: 86-013261911505
E-mail：olimpicbeds@gmail.com http://www.olimpicbeds.com

]]> By: Oodle Adds $11 million http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1260485 Oodle Adds $11 million Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:40:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-1260485 [...] Local.com, ticket sellers, real estate brokers, colleges, and newspapers. However, Last year they lost their Craigslist feed. Edgeio and Vast are also growing through crawling the web. They are branching out by grabbing data [...] [...] Local.com, ticket sellers, real estate brokers, colleges, and newspapers. However, Last year they lost their Craigslist feed. Edgeio and Vast are also growing through crawling the web. They are branching out by grabbing data [...]

]]> By: Testyah http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-535566 Testyah Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:42:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-535566 schalom! schalom!

]]> By: CrunchNotes » TechCrunch Bashing Heats Up http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-324241 CrunchNotes » TechCrunch Bashing Heats Up Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:15:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-324241 [...] My record is clean. I call things like I see them. I disclose financial conflicts. I’ve complimented direct competitors to a startup I founded (see here and here), edgeio. I’ve slammed sponsors (see my comments on ReviewMe). There’s a very good chance I am going to rip apart a startup I invested in when it launches soon if they don’t get their shit together. [...] [...] My record is clean. I call things like I see them. I disclose financial conflicts. I’ve complimented direct competitors to a startup I founded (see here and here), edgeio. I’ve slammed sponsors (see my comments on ReviewMe). There’s a very good chance I am going to rip apart a startup I invested in when it launches soon if they don’t get their shit together. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch » Oodle Does add Events/Tickets Category http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-5898 TechCrunch » Oodle Does add Events/Tickets Category Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:27:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-5898 [...] I wrote about this last week - and now has officially added events and tickets as a category. [...] [...] I wrote about this last week – and now has officially added events and tickets as a category. [...]

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-5669 Michael Arrington Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:38:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-5669 Craig, good clarification. Alexa is notoriously bad but it's usually all we have. Craig, good clarification. Alexa is notoriously bad but it’s usually all we have.

]]> By: craig donato http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-5667 craig donato Tue, 20 Dec 2005 06:55:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-5667 hi michael, fwiw, oodle traffic has been growing at a very good clip (over 25% last month). i think alexa data is a little misleading in two regards. first, it appears to heavily skew towards a bay area demographic. we track data per location (given that's how our sites are layed out) and we've noticed a pretty tight correlation. it also appears to be more more heavily weighted to industry insiders (highly correlated to pr and blog traffic). not sure if anyone else has seen this... thanks for the support, craig hi michael,

fwiw, oodle traffic has been growing at a very good clip (over 25% last month). i think alexa data is a little misleading in two regards. first, it appears to heavily skew towards a bay area demographic. we track data per location (given that’s how our sites are layed out) and we’ve noticed a pretty tight correlation. it also appears to be more more heavily weighted to industry insiders (highly correlated to pr and blog traffic). not sure if anyone else has seen this…

thanks for the support,

craig

]]> By: Peter Caputa http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-5607 Peter Caputa Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:19:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-5607 Disclaimer: I am president of <a href="http://www.whizspark.com" rel="nofollow">WhizSpark</a>, an event marketing and registration service. End disclaimer. Events is a natural extension for a company with classified/shopping aggregation technology. Events are content that people want to be able to search and find. And it is also content that [most] producers have a financial incentive to make findable. Right now, however, the only ESTABLISHED way to make cash as an affiliate from events is to go after the secondary ticket market. (Which is a healthy market.) Fatlens is working on getting primary ticketing companies to open APIs and add affiliate programs. But, this is an uphill battle. First, they have to educate them. I was talking to a mid sized ticketing company's director of sales the other day, and I had to explain what an API was. It also took him 2 hours of conversation to understand how affiliate advertising works OR could work for events. From a search/find perspective, noone has cracked the nut yet. The problem is aggregation. Noone has aggregated enough events to create a compelling reason for a searcher to return. Structured blogging might help if it is adopted by enough bloggers and hosted blogging platforms (Xanga, typepad, blogger, myspace, etc). (The latter being more important in my opinion.) Adding RSS to evite would solve the issue overnight. Or adding RSS and an affiliate program to ticketmaster might solve the same issue. But that's a whole other story. As everyone knows, both of those companies are owned by IAC, along with a host of other smaller ticketing and travel services companies. The way IAC/Ticketmaster competes is by strength. They finance the concert promotion industry by outlaying cash to promoters to book talent, lock up venues with box office management services, and provide kickbacks to promoters and venues alike through their exorbitant "fees" to consumers. They are the only place a consumer can buy tickets for big name acts at the biggest venues. So, like most monopolies, they don't need affiliates. The interesting part is that the majority of shows that go through ticketmaster <a href="http://www.billboard.biz/bb/images/pdf/2004_Top25_Promoters.pdf" rel="nofollow">are not sold out</a>. (that's a pdf) Therein, certainly lies an opportunity. Evite has a different reason for not adding RSS. They monetize through eyeballs. If someone were to build a better search engine for searching events, they'd lose out on a lot of eyeballs and CPM revenue. So, I'd argue that a compelling search engine for events isn't going to happen anytime soon. Given the financial incentives in the industry to NOT let "data" go, most event listing data repositories will not let go of their data. And there won't be any significant movement in the primary ticketing industry anytime soon. Nonetheless, I am loving that everyone is putting a lot of effort into making events more findable. From yahoo/upcoming to trumba to zvents and eventful, there is a crapload of activity around making the process of finding events for consumers - a much easier process. And there are plenty of opportunities at the edges of the event registration and ticketing industry that will be willing to share in the revenue with affiliates. If anyone wants to talk to me further about this, I can be reached at pcaputa at whizspark dot com. I've been breathing this stuff for awhile now. And would enjoy conversations with anyone that is tackling the same issues. Disclaimer: I am president of WhizSpark, an event marketing and registration service. End disclaimer.

Events is a natural extension for a company with classified/shopping aggregation technology. Events are content that people want to be able to search and find. And it is also content that [most] producers have a financial incentive to make findable.

Right now, however, the only ESTABLISHED way to make cash as an affiliate from events is to go after the secondary ticket market. (Which is a healthy market.)

Fatlens is working on getting primary ticketing companies to open APIs and add affiliate programs. But, this is an uphill battle. First, they have to educate them. I was talking to a mid sized ticketing company’s director of sales the other day, and I had to explain what an API was. It also took him 2 hours of conversation to understand how affiliate advertising works OR could work for events.

From a search/find perspective, noone has cracked the nut yet. The problem is aggregation. Noone has aggregated enough events to create a compelling reason for a searcher to return.

Structured blogging might help if it is adopted by enough bloggers and hosted blogging platforms (Xanga, typepad, blogger, myspace, etc). (The latter being more important in my opinion.)

Adding RSS to evite would solve the issue overnight. Or adding RSS and an affiliate program to ticketmaster might solve the same issue. But that’s a whole other story. As everyone knows, both of those companies are owned by IAC, along with a host of other smaller ticketing and travel services companies.

The way IAC/Ticketmaster competes is by strength. They finance the concert promotion industry by outlaying cash to promoters to book talent, lock up venues with box office management services, and provide kickbacks to promoters and venues alike through their exorbitant “fees” to consumers. They are the only place a consumer can buy tickets for big name acts at the biggest venues. So, like most monopolies, they don’t need affiliates. The interesting part is that the majority of shows that go through ticketmaster are not sold out. (that’s a pdf) Therein, certainly lies an opportunity.

Evite has a different reason for not adding RSS. They monetize through eyeballs. If someone were to build a better search engine for searching events, they’d lose out on a lot of eyeballs and CPM revenue.

So, I’d argue that a compelling search engine for events isn’t going to happen anytime soon. Given the financial incentives in the industry to NOT let “data” go, most event listing data repositories will not let go of their data. And there won’t be any significant movement in the primary ticketing industry anytime soon.

Nonetheless, I am loving that everyone is putting a lot of effort into making events more findable. From yahoo/upcoming to trumba to zvents and eventful, there is a crapload of activity around making the process of finding events for consumers – a much easier process. And there are plenty of opportunities at the edges of the event registration and ticketing industry that will be willing to share in the revenue with affiliates.

If anyone wants to talk to me further about this, I can be reached at pcaputa at whizspark dot com. I’ve been breathing this stuff for awhile now. And would enjoy conversations with anyone that is tackling the same issues.

]]> By: Rod Edwards http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-5493 Rod Edwards Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:02:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-5493 Interesting aggregator - interesting model, to be a parallel channel but not a competitor... makes for a slightly weird user experience that one has to go elsewhere to post. Michael, have you shot past BlockRocker? Ajax version (launch forthcoming, testing at present): http://www.blockrocker.com/search2.php Current version: http://www.blockrocker.com/ Interesting aggregator – interesting model, to be a parallel channel but not a competitor… makes for a slightly weird user experience that one has to go elsewhere to post.

Michael, have you shot past BlockRocker?

Ajax version (launch forthcoming, testing at present): http://www.bloc...com/search2.php

Current version:
http://www.blockrocker.com/

]]> By: Rishi Khaitan http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/comment-page-1/#comment-5492 Rishi Khaitan Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:45:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/12/17/oodle-to-add-events/#comment-5492 As far as I can tell, Oodle is not really all about decentralized content. What they are is metasearch - which is searching multiple centralized sources of content. I can't recall a single metasearch site that has had any real success. I'm sure Oodle is dreaming of the day when structured blogging / microformats is ubiquitous. =) As far as I can tell, Oodle is not really all about decentralized content. What they are is metasearch – which is searching multiple centralized sources of content. I can’t recall a single metasearch site that has had any real success.

I’m sure Oodle is dreaming of the day when structured blogging / microformats is ubiquitous. =)

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