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By: Estevan

Estevan — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:28:46 +0000

Why are you so hard on Odeo? They’re a wonderful alternative to iTunes.

By: TechCrunch en français » Evoca va faire plus de bruit que Odeo

TechCrunch en français » Evoca va faire plus de bruit que Odeo — Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:29:51 +0000

[...] Cet univers encore récent est déjà très encombré avec des acteurs comme Odeo, Springdoo, YackPack, Waxmail et d’autres (odeo est clairement la marque leader). Nous voyons que chacune des ces sociétés est à la recherche de la combinaison gagnante entre un bon modèle économique et des fonctionnalités intéressantes. Evoca possède de très sérieux atouts dans ce jeu là. [...]

By: TechCrunch » Evoca Sounds Off to Odeo

TechCrunch » Evoca Sounds Off to Odeo — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:15:06 +0000

[...] This young space is already crowded - competitors include Odeo, Springdoo, YackPack, Waxmail and others (of these, Odeo clearly has the branding lead). I can see each of these companies struggling to find the right business model, feature mix and consumer messaging. Evoca has a strong case for getting it at least mostly right. [...]

By: TechCrunch » V4S - Voicemail for Skype

TechCrunch » V4S - Voicemail for Skype — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:46:57 +0000

[...] V4S joins a whole bunch of products attacking the same or similar market (sending voicemails over the web): YackPack, Odeo Waxmail, vemail, Springdoo and even the humble slawesome. Tags: vs4, orb, vmail, voip, skype, techcrunch, web2.0, web+2.0, Categories: Profiles, VoIP, Software | Bookmark this post with del.icio.us [...]

By: KR

KR — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:35:06 +0000

Bloggers should be telling the truth with a real opinion rather than blogging to build hype. That’s where the value of a blog comes. If there are negative things about odeo, I agree we should post it.

By: CrunchNotes » A Talk with Steve Gillmor and Mike Vizard

CrunchNotes » A Talk with Steve Gillmor and Mike Vizard — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 03:49:43 +0000

[...] Companies or products I discuss: Mechanical Turk, Pandora, Odeo, Inform.com. Windows Live, Yahoo Maps, Goowy. [...]

By: jonny loco

jonny loco — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:25:22 +0000

I understand, I too was surprised at the length of time they took. The bigger question is why they struggled, what problems are they facing and will this impact the other players too.

podomatic have beenkeen to punch out new features weekly. they seem well equiped to sneak top spot from the Ev followers.

Broader question though is simply that is this a technical issue regards success or is it more an execution issue is in driving to the right priorities. For example, Odeo search is hardly consistent (to be honets its dreadful), does this mean they don’t care abot search, what happened to self tagging they suggested earlier. No one has developed a full service option that delioevers search performance that we have become accustom too. Individuals such as eyeout and RTM are certainly doing a better job of understanding the restrictions and constraints.

$8mm is a great deal of money these days in start ups. Begs the big question, what is Ev doing with this..

By: Michael Arrington

Michael Arrington — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:48:20 +0000

Johnny, I disagree. The product they released is simple to build and shouldn’t have taken them so long. On the other hand, I am hearing that they have a much more feature rich product coming. If that’s the case, I will retract this post and jump right back on board with Odeo.

By: jonny loco

jonny loco — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:37:01 +0000

This is not about tools or technology, Ev said it months ago… its about service and the ability to differentiate with your services.

I have followed Odeo from the get-go, they have a polished site, good branding and their aggregation is OK. The fact they took so long on the “Create” category was I believe a realization that building audio tools for the masses was not as straight forward as building photo-editing tools.

What they have is good enough for now, for their next steps have to be about demand generation and creating the sub’s

By: MonkKBFR

MonkKBFR — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:38:00 +0000

Gotta agree. We’ve looked at what appear to be the big three addressing this market (Odeo, PodOMatic and Clickcaster) and we’ve settled on the Clickcaster guys (www.clickcaster.com). Mosty because they do things differently from the other two that make it much easier to use their service.

They allow unlimited size on podcasts (some of our studio free shows are 500MB each). They have a kick ass built in Java recorder that’s much higher in quality than the flash based recorders on the other two services and they do it all locally (no streaming to the server.. which sucks if you’re doing a big file).

I also like their interface. Simple, clean, low signal to noise ratio. Kind of like comparing Google to Yahoo.

Check em out.

Monk
Boulder Free Radio/KBFR
http://freemedia.blogspot.com/

By: Jon

Jon — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:30:02 +0000

I have used the creator tool at Odeo and have also been disappointed by it’s stunning lack of anything. The create portion took them forever to finally go live yet has virtually nothing in it except a Record, stop and play buttons.

Make a mistake? Clear the entire recording and start again. Want to delete a sentence or a lengthy ‘ummm’? Clear and restart.

It’s also extremely slow when it comes to ‘processing’ an audio file after it has been recorded via the tool.

Eventually I got so tired of the Flash recording interface after trying it for a while that I went back to Audacity and just used those MP3s.

By: TechCrunch » YackPack Joins the Click, Record Crowd

TechCrunch » YackPack Joins the Click, Record Crowd — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:08:15 +0000

[...] YackPack is one of a growing group of companies (see our recent Odeo post for the list) that is allowing consumers to easily create a quick recording to share with friends. [...]

By: Sab

Sab — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:14:37 +0000

Thanks for the info, I was almost feeling embarressed since I had put off checking it out for quite a while. I always need two tries anyway so I’ll wait just a wee bit longer.

By: ruzz

ruzz — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:54:53 +0000

if you watched long enough, you realize blogging wasn’t a cookie cutter business until blogger made it one.

By: Imeallach

Imeallach — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 09:54:00 +0000

I loved the look of Odeo and I signed up to use it as my primary podcatcher. But they just don’t update the feeds. One of my subscriptions wasn’t checked for 16 days. What use is that? I exported my subscriptions to iPodder Lemon and left them to it. Pity.

By the way, I had to hack Odeo’s exported OPML to pieces before iPodder Lemon could read it. Not sure who’s at fault there?

By: kaveh

kaveh — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:51:33 +0000

No motivation to innovate … at Odeo that is. It’s not a cookie-cutter business (hmm, reference to the founder’s previous business, Blogger ;), but founder of Odeo probably thinks it is … If Google buys this one too though, then we are all wrong and he’s right. Except, that still doesn’t mean it’s a well thought-out application

Besides, it looks just like Blogger … not even creative in that dept., if you ask me.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:16:14 +0000

After looking at the competition, I’m also less impressed with Odeo. Sure, it looks great and has some excellent community features, but the creation tools are less than expected - and I’ve been using them for almost two months.

Take Justin up on trying Podomatic. It’s a lot of fun to use. Also try ClickCaster and Audioblog.com. Both are also good.

By: Justin Dossey

Justin Dossey — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:54:31 +0000

PodOmatic has been working on a lot of the features mentioned in your post.

We are not really well known yet so I’ll chime in to give you a short overview of our site. We don’t (yet) have a full-featured browser-based audio mixing app either– it’s a ton of work! But we decided that lack of Audacity-in-flash doesn’t mean we can’t make interesting things with audio, so you’ll find some useful and fun stuff there.

Some of our stuff:
* Online tools to record (flash) and publish podcasts. We have a simple mixer that can apply intro and outro audio to a recording for a more professional feel.
* Listener statistics for podcasters
* Telephone Integration
* an awesome (and improving) podcatcher called podAmigo
* podMail (one-to-one or one-many audo mail). We were sending podMail months before the slawesome folks launched.
* Listener Feedback Features - Post text, audio comments to shows

Everywhere we support audio, one can upload or record on the spot.

The site still has a few bugs, but they’re getting fixed about as quickly as we make new ones

Give us a try: http://www.podOmatic.com

By: Scott Kingery

Scott Kingery — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:39:40 +0000

I SO want Odeo to succeed. I think it would be cool. I like the ability to have my Odeo stuff as an RSS feed so I can plug it in anywhere and I know I’ll only get the latest things no matter what client.
The tag search thing is whack. I want to find FEEDS or CHANNELS not the individual shows. And they still don’t have OPML import. And all of a sudden today I downloaded a slew of old content that had never been downloaded. And the update schedule never seems accurate. Seems like if I sub to the actual feed instead of through Odeo I get it much faster.
I really keep hoping I can do a positive Odeo rant but it always seems far off.

By: kosso

kosso — Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:24:22 +0000

I’ve anticipated the odeo tools for a while. This could be just the start of an interesting upgrade path. I have read about alot more functionality. Let’s see, rather than shoot them down. And this is coming from someone who’s creating podcast tools myself. I remember you looking over my shoulder at gnomedex at a podcasting tool i have in dev. - I’ll be sure to let you know when it’s ready. It has grown alot. If I had put out what I had back then, I could have been the subject of a post like this. I didn’t want that. Maybe the money has created deadlines they can’t meet? I just have a life (ish) and spare time to fight with (for now)

By: Michael Arrington

Michael Arrington — Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:04:16 +0000

Ed - they can have all the time they want, and I really hope they catch up.

By: Alterion

Alterion — Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:58:38 +0000

i have to say i couldn;t argee more here.. i’d heard good things about odeo and the site seemed very flash and nice.. sadly using is a differnt experience.. feeds have no video support (so no systm command N or digital life.. :() and while the audio synch was good it save reaaly wierd file names in a funny directory.. ipodderx for all its userinterface and slowness problems has served me 1000’s of time better
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just 2$ from a consumer

By: Ed Dunn

Ed Dunn — Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:57:03 +0000

Microsoft usually delay their product launches for 18 months or more! Let’s give odeo a little more time to tweak their stuff. I know that a new Flash is out and pretty much obsolete the previous version, or they realize building an cross-platform app in Flash instead of Java was not bright..who knows?

By: ruzz

ruzz — Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:59:38 +0000

My comment was more a reflection on Odeo, and the crew behind it than about Techcrunch’s influence (though, arguably a very finite crowd of web2.0 literate types) in general.

Odeo won’t be made, nor broke on the grounds of technical types.

Ev doesn’t build things long term for techs, he aims for the average user–even if it takes him a lot of time to get there..