Comments on: iKarma has Potential to Be Huge http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:25:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Joyce http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-2578569 Joyce Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:22:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-2578569 While I consider iKarma a probable effort, I certainly question the ruthless methodology employed in ferreting out merchants distastefully. There are no defined check steps in place with this system that allows a more justified and universal approach in the manner in which a consumer and merchant can work together other than announcing rather vindictively and rather loudly, the poor behavior of a merchant! Basing upon the satirical and rather less than eloquent verbage used in some of these comments on some merchants I already found on iKarma, the attempt appears to be more of a consumer attempting to viciously create negative feedback over the reputation of an innocent merchant. Don't you guys check the behavior of your consumers before allowing the posting of such scurrilous comments? How can iKarma use such an enobled word "Karma" and expect to sit on the sidelines while all this is happening to some poor gun out there who may be innocent. I am sorry - I just don't buy into your system. In all my 25+ of process improvement background, I see major loop holes in the system that need correction. WE live in a system where the consumers tend to gain upper hand bu the world hasd changed and we now conveniently categorize the consumer into relevant categories. Hire someone to work on it! Perhaps, you should device an effective process workflow capped with means on ensuring that you do not hurt the merchant from the ultra malevolent customers! While I consider iKarma a probable effort, I certainly question the ruthless methodology employed in ferreting out merchants distastefully. There are no defined check steps in place with this system that allows a more justified and universal approach in the manner in which a consumer and merchant can work together other than announcing rather vindictively and rather loudly, the poor behavior of a merchant! Basing upon the satirical and rather less than eloquent verbage used in some of these comments on some merchants I already found on iKarma, the attempt appears to be more of a consumer attempting to viciously create negative feedback over the reputation of an innocent merchant. Don’t you guys check the behavior of your consumers before allowing the posting of such scurrilous comments? How can iKarma use such an enobled word “Karma” and expect to sit on the sidelines while all this is happening to some poor gun out there who may be innocent. I am sorry - I just don’t buy into your system. In all my 25+ of process improvement background, I see major loop holes in the system that need correction. WE live in a system where the consumers tend to gain upper hand bu the world hasd changed and we now conveniently categorize the consumer into relevant categories. Hire someone to work on it! Perhaps, you should device an effective process workflow capped with means on ensuring that you do not hurt the merchant from the ultra malevolent customers!

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Rapleaf: une alternative au système de recommandations d’Ebay http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-2514196 TechCrunch en français » Rapleaf: une alternative au système de recommandations d’Ebay Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:02:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-2514196 [...] avait émis la requête d’un tel système de recommandation nous avions également suggéré que iKarma présent dans ce domaine fasse les changements nécessaires à leur produit afin de s’adresser à [...] [...] avait émis la requête d’un tel système de recommandation nous avions également suggéré que iKarma présent dans ce domaine fasse les changements nécessaires à leur produit afin de s’adresser à [...]

]]> By: ::lemonup:: - News, Technology, sports, cars, movie, video, blog, travel, mp3, picture, computer, notebook » Gorb: Taking Personal Reputation To A New Low http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-1273185 ::lemonup:: - News, Technology, sports, cars, movie, video, blog, travel, mp3, picture, computer, notebook » Gorb: Taking Personal Reputation To A New Low Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:18:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-1273185 [...] through their feedback score, is the only company to have reached scale. Startups like Rapleaf and iKarma are still young and [...] [...] through their feedback score, is the only company to have reached scale. Startups like Rapleaf and iKarma are still young and [...]

]]> By: Gorb: Taking Personal Reputation To A New Low http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-1272086 Gorb: Taking Personal Reputation To A New Low Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:46:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-1272086 [...] through their feedback score, is the only company to have reached scale. Startups like Rapleaf and iKarma are still young and [...] [...] through their feedback score, is the only company to have reached scale. Startups like Rapleaf and iKarma are still young and [...]

]]> By: MobBlog » Blog Archive » Portable Reputations http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-748665 MobBlog » Blog Archive » Portable Reputations Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:11:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-748665 [...] In UTIFORO (a new research project), we may explore how sellers may “port” their reputation from eBay to informal markets. That might relate to this: Last year I mentioned eBay’s Feedback system and said it was arguably their biggest asset. Even with its flaws, I said, it is one the biggest drivers of trust between two people buying and selling who’ve never met and never will. But it’s a closed system, usable only within eBay and only for eBay transactions. We needed an internet-wide identity and feedback system that any reputable application can tap into, both pulling and pushing data. At the time we had taken a look at iKarma, but they seemed to have missed the boat by ignoring the portability aspect of reputation. Rapleaf launched in April. And while it’s still quite early, it does exactly what we need it to do - provide a good off-ebay reputation system. eBay banned Rapleaf in May (They learned their lesson with PayPal it seems), but the company is still chugging along. [...] [...] In UTIFORO (a new research project), we may explore how sellers may “port” their reputation from eBay to informal markets. That might relate to this: Last year I mentioned eBay’s Feedback system and said it was arguably their biggest asset. Even with its flaws, I said, it is one the biggest drivers of trust between two people buying and selling who’ve never met and never will. But it’s a closed system, usable only within eBay and only for eBay transactions. We needed an internet-wide identity and feedback system that any reputable application can tap into, both pulling and pushing data. At the time we had taken a look at iKarma, but they seemed to have missed the boat by ignoring the portability aspect of reputation. Rapleaf launched in April. And while it’s still quite early, it does exactly what we need it to do - provide a good off-ebay reputation system. eBay banned Rapleaf in May (They learned their lesson with PayPal it seems), but the company is still chugging along. [...]

]]> By: Antispambusiness http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-689377 Antispambusiness Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:54:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-689377 Even annoying spam messages can become a source of your profit if you think about them as of source of new ideas for popular content websites. Even annoying spam messages can become a source of your profit if you think about them as of source of new ideas for popular content websites.

]]> By: A Year Later: The Companies I Wanted To Profile (but didn’t exist) at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-593147 A Year Later: The Companies I Wanted To Profile (but didn’t exist) at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:14:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-593147 [...] We needed an internet-wide identity and feedback system that any reputable application can tap into, both pulling and pushing data. At the time we had taken a look atiKarma, but they seemed to have missed the boat by ignoring the portability aspect of reputation. [...] [...] We needed an internet-wide identity and feedback system that any reputable application can tap into, both pulling and pushing data. At the time we had taken a look atiKarma, but they seemed to have missed the boat by ignoring the portability aspect of reputation. [...]

]]> By: Y. Caruthers http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-203923 Y. Caruthers Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:35:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-203923 I knew better, but I bought into the spam-scam and bought 2K shares with a bit of money that I could afford to lose, and the stock is currently tanked. That being said, I do think it's a good idea, and that is why I bought in and am hanging on. I'd love to know more about it, and some of your ideas for the future of the company. But to the hard questions, Paul, are some basic financial data on the company - shares authorized vs. outstanding, assets/liabilities, your salary (Yes, yours) and some reasonable earnings projections. Maybe there are a billion shares out there, but still, I deserve to know. I knew better, but I bought into the spam-scam and bought 2K shares with a bit of money that I could afford to lose, and the stock is currently tanked. That being said, I do think it’s a good idea, and that is why I bought in and am hanging on. I’d love to know more about it, and some of your ideas for the future of the company. But to the hard questions, Paul, are some basic financial data on the company - shares authorized vs. outstanding, assets/liabilities, your salary (Yes, yours) and some reasonable earnings projections. Maybe there are a billion shares out there, but still, I deserve to know.

]]> By: Al Nelson http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-40923 Al Nelson Thu, 11 May 2006 18:04:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-40923 I just started using ikarma.com. Fantastic. I have been listed on the site for one week. In addition to the reputation buildup there is a great additional benefit. If you Google "lace yardage" you will come up with my listing under ikarma ON GOOGLE's FIRST PAGE. That is the best results I have ever gotten from any idea I have ever tried. I hope a lot of other web sites use this tool because the more that use it the more popular it will become. Al Nelson www.oldeworldelace.com I just started using ikarma.com. Fantastic. I have been listed on the site for one week. In addition to the reputation buildup there is a great additional benefit. If you Google “lace yardage” you will come up with my listing under ikarma ON GOOGLE’s FIRST PAGE. That is the best results I have ever gotten from any idea I have ever tried.

I hope a lot of other web sites use this tool because the more that use it the more popular it will become.

Al Nelson
http://www.oldeworldelace.com

]]> By: J.P. http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-39456 J.P. Tue, 09 May 2006 20:36:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-39456 Man this stock is really dropping. i hope ikarma is using there resources well to built this compamy Man this stock is really dropping. i hope ikarma is using there resources well to built this compamy

]]> By: stephen http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-34281 stephen Tue, 02 May 2006 17:43:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-34281 Hi Paul, There is a Discussion board on IHUB.COM http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5575 It has only been around for a couple of weeks. See you there one Day Steve Hi Paul,
There is a Discussion board on IHUB.COM

http://www.investorshub.com/bo.....rd_id=5575

It has only been around for a couple of weeks.
See you there one Day

Steve

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-34248 Jason Tue, 02 May 2006 15:41:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-34248 I sure as heck hope it rebounds. I bought 5000 shares last week after a 25%drop thinking I'd catch it in the trough. Who'd have thought it would drop 25% again and then 33%. I lost half my investment in less than a week. I'm too stubborn to get out now. Count me in with the long-haulers. I-Karma, my prayers are with you. I sure as heck hope it rebounds. I bought 5000 shares last week after a 25%drop thinking I’d catch it in the trough. Who’d have thought it would drop 25% again and then 33%. I lost half my investment in less than a week. I’m too stubborn to get out now. Count me in with the long-haulers. I-Karma, my prayers are with you.

]]> By: Paul Kraly http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-34218 Paul Kraly Tue, 02 May 2006 14:10:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-34218 As do I. I am in this stock for the long haul; I think it is a business gold-mine, and if I-Karma can cater to businesses as well as eBay did way back when, it's a solid business model. If I were to be nit-picky, the only thing I think I would ask for as extra on IKarma, would be a nice blog or discussion board for groups. I'm sure those are in the works though. Paul As do I.

I am in this stock for the long haul; I think it is a business gold-mine, and if I-Karma can cater to businesses as well as eBay did way back when, it’s a solid business model.

If I were to be nit-picky, the only thing I think I would ask for as extra on IKarma, would be a nice blog or discussion board for groups.

I’m sure those are in the works though.

Paul

]]> By: Kelley http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-33645 Kelley Mon, 01 May 2006 16:50:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-33645 I still think iKarma has great potential. I still think iKarma has great potential.

]]> By: Paul Kraly http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-33592 Paul Kraly Mon, 01 May 2006 14:42:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-33592 Tracking these "perps" doesn't matter. :-( These are probably emails of legitimate, innocent persons who have been sadly dragged into the spam scheme. Some emails do that; the minute you reply to them, it automatically duplicates the message and resends it, and before you know it, YOU are the spammer. :-( All you've done is list email addresses of people who probably have done nothing wrong. Don't make this a witch-hunt, people. I'm sure after the stock dropped like a stone the last few days, the spammers got exactly what they wanted: a huge jump in price, and probably are out of the country by now. Sad, because this is a major federal offense and we'll never know who or what was behind it. BUT, if I were IKarma, I'd look at the stock owners and see who sold off a LOT of shares suddenly. Paul Tracking these “perps” doesn’t matter. :-(

These are probably emails of legitimate, innocent persons who have been sadly dragged into the spam scheme. Some emails do that; the minute you reply to them, it automatically duplicates the message and resends it, and before you know it, YOU are the spammer. :-(

All you’ve done is list email addresses of people who probably have done nothing wrong.

Don’t make this a witch-hunt, people. I’m sure after the stock dropped like a stone the last few days, the spammers got exactly what they wanted: a huge jump in price, and probably are out of the country by now.

Sad, because this is a major federal offense and we’ll never know who or what was behind it.

BUT, if I were IKarma, I’d look at the stock owners and see who sold off a LOT of shares suddenly.

Paul

]]> By: Brian http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-32328 Brian Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:33:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-32328 Here are some of the bogus addresses that I extracted from the spammers promoting ikarma - maybe they can help you in tracking the perps pjfq@frueh.at mehcl@727records.com krobat@prasadgifts.com zowm@halobunker.com bjo@2ndnorbiton.org.uk yibkes@fss.rnu.tn mopzy@cadiware.com vuku@dcm.co.nz xihy@astroreseau.com ebfc@retro64.com tqc@radiobingo.be slf@followadream.net kpvggn@francophone.fr gfajw@beckford.freeserve.co.uk vqzrc@camerino.com bhwsd@creativeads.com sska@graq.co.uk uqgm@westernlime.com cxk@sunnycrestbaptist.org nxiqw@ndburke.com kxlt@colonialheights.org wkdk@qaequipment.co.uk krobat@prasadgifts.com Here are some of the bogus addresses that I extracted from the spammers promoting ikarma - maybe they can help you in tracking the perps

pjfq@frueh.at
mehcl@727records.com
krobat@prasadgifts.com
zowm@halobunker.com
bjo@2ndnorbiton.org.uk
yibkes@fss.rnu.tn
mopzy@cadiware.com
vuku@dcm.co.nz
xihy@astroreseau.com
ebfc@retro64.com
tqc@radiobingo.be
slf@followadream.net
kpvggn@francophone.fr
gfajw@beckford.freeserve.co.uk
vqzrc@camerino.com
bhwsd@creativeads.com
sska@graq.co.uk
uqgm@westernlime.com
cxk@sunnycrestbaptist.org
nxiqw@ndburke.com
kxlt@colonialheights.org
wkdk@qaequipment.co.uk
krobat@prasadgifts.com

]]> By: Robert Warren http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-32293 Robert Warren Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:13:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-32293 I've been following the iKarma drama this week, here and on several other blogs. As I have a unique perspective on iKarma, I really feel that I should say something. I know the iKarma folks personally. I'm the guy who wrote most of the written copy on iKarma's website; I did some of their early press releases, a magazine article or two, and some other odds and ends. I've talked with Paul Williams and Scott Pitchford many times over the last year, sat and had lunch with them in their Florida offices, and have worked with them long enough to have a pretty good sense of where they're at. I'm not an employee of iKarma, nor do I have any financial stake in iKarma - I'm just a guy hired to do some marketing materials from time to time. But I do know these guys. I don't believe for a minute that this spam fiasco was their doing. In the time I've known Paul and Scott, they've always gone out of their way to leave a good impression. They pay their bills on time. They rarely complain about anything (at least around me). They try not to offend anybody, sometimes to their detriment. Like all human beings, they have their flaws, but if there's one thing I must say about these men, it's that they're not so mindbogglingly stupid as to do this. And it's simply not in character. Like Paul said here, this is apparently a case of either a) a large stockholder trying to pump the value short term for a quick and profitable dump, or b) someone setting out intentionally to destroy iKarma's reputation. Personally, I think it's the former, but I don't rule out the latter. Not this week. So to all you people pleading with iKarma to take you off their mailing list, they can't. You're not there. They're not spamming you. This is coming from someone else, and that someone else simply doesn't care about either iKarma's rep or your aggravation. Based on iKarma's stock numbers at Friday close, they most likely made the profit they were looking for. But, believe me, none of that profit was collected by iKarma's hands. When Paul says that no one is angrier about this situation than he is, he means it. I’ve been following the iKarma drama this week, here and on several other blogs. As I have a unique perspective on iKarma, I really feel that I should say something.

I know the iKarma folks personally. I’m the guy who wrote most of the written copy on iKarma’s website; I did some of their early press releases, a magazine article or two, and some other odds and ends. I’ve talked with Paul Williams and Scott Pitchford many times over the last year, sat and had lunch with them in their Florida offices, and have worked with them long enough to have a pretty good sense of where they’re at. I’m not an employee of iKarma, nor do I have any financial stake in iKarma - I’m just a guy hired to do some marketing materials from time to time. But I do know these guys.

I don’t believe for a minute that this spam fiasco was their doing. In the time I’ve known Paul and Scott, they’ve always gone out of their way to leave a good impression. They pay their bills on time. They rarely complain about anything (at least around me). They try not to offend anybody, sometimes to their detriment. Like all human beings, they have their flaws, but if there’s one thing I must say about these men, it’s that they’re not so mindbogglingly stupid as to do this. And it’s simply not in character.

Like Paul said here, this is apparently a case of either a) a large stockholder trying to pump the value short term for a quick and profitable dump, or b) someone setting out intentionally to destroy iKarma’s reputation. Personally, I think it’s the former, but I don’t rule out the latter. Not this week.

So to all you people pleading with iKarma to take you off their mailing list, they can’t. You’re not there. They’re not spamming you. This is coming from someone else, and that someone else simply doesn’t care about either iKarma’s rep or your aggravation.

Based on iKarma’s stock numbers at Friday close, they most likely made the profit they were looking for. But, believe me, none of that profit was collected by iKarma’s hands. When Paul says that no one is angrier about this situation than he is, he means it.

]]> By: Jana Johnson http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31976 Jana Johnson Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:22:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31976 Please, please, please take me off of your mailing list. I am getting emails daily from this site. All attempts to have myself removed from your mailing list have been unsuccessful. Please stop sending me mail. Thanks, Jana Johnson Please, please, please take me off of your mailing list. I am getting emails daily from this site. All attempts to have myself removed from your mailing list have been unsuccessful. Please stop sending me mail. Thanks, Jana Johnson

]]> By: Hitchhiker's Guide to 650 http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31799 Hitchhiker's Guide to 650 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:25:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31799 <strong>iKarma Pump and Dump...</strong> I got the follow email in almost ALL my email accounts. . .you name it. . . yahoo, gmail, ebay, wharton, stanford . . . every single one. . . this is an incredibly organized and expensive stock manipulation scheme. To buy a big enough list to reach t... iKarma Pump and Dump…

I got the follow email in almost ALL my email accounts. . .you name it. . . yahoo, gmail, ebay, wharton, stanford . . . every single one. . . this is an incredibly organized and expensive stock manipulation scheme. To buy a big enough list to reach t…

]]> By: Kelley http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31336 Kelley Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:48:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31336 Regardless of what people think about what appears to be blatant, third party spam (I mean, come on, haven't you received stock spam before?!)this company has a lot of potential. I invested before the "spamming incident" and have yet to receive any spam. Who has your email? Are you a member of stock websites? Has anyone considered that someone is trying to "pump and dump"? Obviously iKarma would not spam, that's beyond counter-productive and contrary to their company vision (if anyone would take the time to learn about them). They are not a boiler room! The posts on this site (4 months after the last post on the original topic, I might add) are taking on an decidely different tone, similar to that found on the Yahoo stock boards or the Raging Bull board. It really makes me wonder. The spam is not the issue here - it's the company. I suggest that people look at the co. website and do their DD and make a decision based on that rather than ridiculous, blatantly manipulative spam. Why did people become so reactionary over blatant third party spam?? If have the need to promote yourself or your company in any way, please check out iKarma and forget that ridiculousness!! (and no, I do not work for iKarma, I am an attorney in CA and was on board with this stock before this bizarre, blatant sabotage or pump and dump or whatever it is). In my opinion, iKarma is a very worthwhile company on many levels and I really hope this craziness doesn't obscure how much potential they have. Go to the website and see for yourself and forget about the spammers!!! Regardless of what people think about what appears to be blatant, third party spam (I mean, come on, haven’t you received stock spam before?!)this company has a lot of potential.

I invested before the “spamming incident” and have yet to receive any spam. Who has your email? Are you a member of stock websites?

Has anyone considered that someone is trying to “pump and dump”? Obviously iKarma would not spam, that’s beyond counter-productive and contrary to their company vision (if anyone would take the time to learn about them). They are not a boiler room!

The posts on this site (4 months after the last post on the original topic, I might add) are taking on an decidely different tone, similar to that found on the Yahoo stock boards or the Raging Bull board. It really makes me wonder.

The spam is not the issue here - it’s the company. I suggest that people look at the co. website and do their DD and make a decision based on that rather than ridiculous, blatantly manipulative spam. Why did people become so reactionary over blatant third party spam??

If have the need to promote yourself or your company in any way, please check out iKarma and forget that ridiculousness!! (and no, I do not work for iKarma, I am an attorney in CA and was on board with this stock before this bizarre, blatant sabotage or pump and dump or whatever it is).

In my opinion, iKarma is a very worthwhile company on many levels and I really hope this craziness doesn’t obscure how much potential they have. Go to the website and see for yourself and forget about the spammers!!!

]]> By: Jim Reynolds http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31283 Jim Reynolds Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:37:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31283 If iKarma is completely, on all levels, uninformed as to the source of this spam - that's fine. Unlikely, but I can see it as possible. But their concern doesn't make them saints. That's just good business sense - right now they're getting a bad rep from anyone with more to do with their time than sift through 500 bad e-mails. They'll be saints when they figure out the who/what and how to stop these spams. That'll be the day. Remember, they do have something to gain by badmouthing these spammers - and so it's not the thought that counts, it's the actions taken. As far as "realizing this great investment opportunity from the evils of spam-" get a newspaper or read a few websites. If you really think you got lucky because you got a few hundred spams that you think happened to be a decent stock tip - you have way too much time on your hands and you're not using it very effectively. If an arsonist burns down your house, and happens to drop his wallet on the way out, that doesn't make it "not such a bad fire." The fire still sucks. If iKarma is completely, on all levels, uninformed as to the source of this spam - that’s fine. Unlikely, but I can see it as possible.

But their concern doesn’t make them saints. That’s just good business sense - right now they’re getting a bad rep from anyone with more to do with their time than sift through 500 bad e-mails.

They’ll be saints when they figure out the who/what and how to stop these spams. That’ll be the day. Remember, they do have something to gain by badmouthing these spammers - and so it’s not the thought that counts, it’s the actions taken.

As far as “realizing this great investment opportunity from the evils of spam-” get a newspaper or read a few websites. If you really think you got lucky because you got a few hundred spams that you think happened to be a decent stock tip - you have way too much time on your hands and you’re not using it very effectively.

If an arsonist burns down your house, and happens to drop his wallet on the way out, that doesn’t make it “not such a bad fire.” The fire still sucks.

]]> By: Kelley http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31180 Kelley Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:45:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31180 Please don't let third party scumbag scam/spam artists dissuade you from iKarma. In my experience, it is a good company run by good people. Do your own DD and please ignore the spam. (unless, of course, you have the foresight to recognize a good co. when you see one) As a result of this mess, I am further impressed by Paul Williams' dedication to his company as well as net users (who aren't even members of iKarma). With a leader like him, I believe iKarma has potential for greatness. Most ceo's wouldn't even care or respond to this. That says a lot in my opinion. Please don’t let third party scumbag scam/spam artists dissuade you from iKarma. In my experience, it is a good company run by good people. Do your own DD and please ignore the spam. (unless, of course, you have the foresight to recognize a good co. when you see one)

As a result of this mess, I am further impressed by Paul Williams’ dedication to his company as well as net users (who aren’t even members of iKarma). With a leader like him, I believe iKarma has potential for greatness. Most ceo’s wouldn’t even care or respond to this. That says a lot in my opinion.

]]> By: J.P. http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31164 J.P. Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:02:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31164 I have gotten spam emails not only about IKarma but about other stocks too. It has been happening for about 2 weeks now and they all come in the same type of format. I don't know who is behind it. I have gotten spam emails not only about IKarma but about other stocks too. It has been happening for about 2 weeks now and they all come in the same type of format. I don’t know who is behind it.

]]> By: David Quarberg http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31147 David Quarberg Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:24:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31147 Please remove me from your email list. I do not want any further emails from you. Please remove me from your email list. I do not want any further emails from you.

]]> By: Paul Williams - ceo - iKarma.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/03/ikarma-has-potential-to-be-huge/#comment-31139 Paul Williams - ceo - iKarma.com Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:05:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=276#comment-31139 I need to advise people not to respond to these spam emails. It appears that the spammers are using the email address of anyone who sends a reply as the "from" address on the next 1000+ emails they send. Once again this tactic seems designed not as it seems to promote iKarma, but rather to identify those few people motivated enough to complain and then hit them again in a way that is guaranteed to really piss them off. I need to advise people not to respond to these spam emails. It appears that the spammers are using the email address of anyone who sends a reply as the “from” address on the next 1000+ emails they send. Once again this tactic seems designed not as it seems to promote iKarma, but rather to identify those few people motivated enough to complain and then hit them again in a way that is guaranteed to really piss them off.

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