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JotSpot Live, a JotSpot company, launched today. They’ve created an awesome wiki tool that solves at least two common wiki problems – the specialized markup language and multiple simultaneous users.
I love wikis. We have one. They are perfect for group collaboration.
But wiki code is different from everything else and while it isn’t difficult, it’s silly to have to use it (note Social Text’s wikiwyg, however, which is a nice wysiwyg editor for wikis). And only one person can edit text at any one time.
Jotspot Live solves both of these problems. It also doesn’t require any server software. It’s a dead simple wiki application. With a few feature additions (like link and image support) it will be good enough for most people to use.
It’s built with Ruby on Rails and uses Ajax to allow dragging and dropping of text around the screen. Add users by adding their email address. The wiki has presence functionality, meaning it shows you who is live on the page at any time. Multiple users can edit text simultaneously.
Abe Fettig, who is one of the people who built JotSpot Live, writes this about it:
I’ve been working on a project at JotSpot that is so incredibly cool, I get excited every time I think about it. It’s called JotSpot Live.
JotSpot Live is a real-time wiki interface that allows multiple users to edit the same page at the same time. Calling it “SubEthaEdit for the web” is an oversimplification, but that’s probably the quickest way to wrap your head around the concept. Unlike SubEthaEdit, JotSpot Live doesn’t require any special client software: it’s a web application that runs in Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Safari, using nothing but HTML, script, and CSS.
It’s not perfect. Brian Benzinger (who also writes about JotSpot Live here) and I are editing a page right now and he’s found a bug that occurs when two users simultaneously edit text. We also noticed that if one person logs off and then back on, two separate versions of the wiki page seem to run and each person only sees themself as “present”.
Other problems: Slow load time, no image support, it doesn’t tell you who written or edited text, there is no page delete function and you can’t uninvite people once they are added.
However, all of these bugs/feature adds are easily fixed.
Fred Oliveira (TechCrunch editor) wrote a post on webreakstuff about problems with wikis and collaborative software in general in July 2005. He identified many of the problems that JotSpot Live addresses.
Pricing
Free for up to five wiki pages per month. Includes advertising.
$5/month for up to 15 pages per month. No ads.
$20/month for unlimited pages. No ads.
There are no restrictions on functionality or number of users.
Team
Joe Kraus, co-founder and CEO
Graham Spencer, co-founder and CTO
Ben Lutch, Vice President, Operations
Ken Norton, Vice President, Products
Link
Hi guys,
Thanks for the nice writeup of JotSpot Live. I’m glad you like it. We’re already working on the bugs and missing features you mention, so those should be taken care of soon.
To clarify one point, JotSpot Live isn’t built on Ruby on Rails. It uses a standard JotSpot server with a Twisted frontend, and an Ajax UI powered by the awesome dojo javascript framework.
How does this thing work? I was under the impression that the server cannot send data back to the client after the connection is closed? (Even with ajax.. A substitute would be client generated ajax requests on timed intervals) but this doesn’t seem to be the case here.
Can anyone shed some light?
Thanks
I used the beta version of JotSpot for a course called Computers and Communications at the University of Toronto at Mississauga last spring. It worked very well with students both with and without HTML skills. The different levels of permisssions available for separate pages (both for who could view and for who could post and edit) made it a really useful course container. Students could ask questions of the rest of the students, and have answers posted, thus enabling a learning community. They could post files and share their work that way too.
It’s a lovely tool.
Important note: JotLive isn’t built on Ruby on Rails. It’s built on Jot (duh)!
Unfortunately those prices are no longer accurate. Plans start at $9 a month and go to $49 a month, none has unlimited pages or unlimited users.
It is a great wiki though
hi,
I’m working since july on an open source realtime document editor name oxyd ( http://oxyd.codehaus.org ). The documentation is not up to date. I have a released version, but no public server for demo.
things, there are not on jotlive:
* see what others do
* insert paragraph
* open source (apache license)
* plugin system for saving everywhere (like in xwiki, wikipedia, database…)
If you want to try, contact me (jeremi23@gmail.com).
If you want to help for design, javascript, or java, please contact me.
lala: it just doesn’t close the connection.
It’s reasonably well-done, but I have to say I’m a little disappointed. Six years ago, KnowNow had a system that did true real-time editing — you could click anywhere in the page and everyone’s screen would change as you type, not when you hit save. Sure, it was brittle, largely because JavaScript was brittle back then, but one would think something similar would be more doable today.
Aaron: I agree that being able to see what other people are typing is important, and I encourage you to keep an eye on JotSpot Live to see where we’re going with it. There should be some significant progress in that direction within the next few weeks.
Here are 2 free alternatives that are currently available: wikidPad (www.jhorman.org/wikidPad/) and tiddlywiki (www.tiddlywiki.com). Both are focussed more on applying wiki concepts to an individual’s organizational needs, and I find them extremely useful – I use wikidPad every day.
The most useful feature of wikidpad that seems to be missing here is the ability to tag individual page entries (not entire page) and then to examine all entries by tag.
I plan to check out JotSpot to see how it stacks up. Looks like the free level would be good, except the 20 page limitation really is insufficient for practical use. If I want to use this as a single user I’ll need at least hundreds of pages, so I’ll need the $9/mo plan, which is a lot more than free…
Charlie, good comments. Tagging is obviously a key feature. I’ll be checking out wikipad as well based on what you write.
Wiki has always been claimed to be a collaboration tool, but I found it to be just a “documentation” tool. I don’t find it useful for an ongoing project collaboration. Am I missing anything?
Thanks for the nice writeup of JotSpot Live. I’m glad you like it. We’re already working on the bugs and missing features you mention, so those should be taken care of soon.
I like thy wiki part – but I also don’t find it useful for an ongoing project collaboration.
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