July 8, 2005

Profile - NewsGator Online v. Bloglines

Michael Arrington

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Editor’s Note: This is a profile of NewsGator’s online product only, not its outlook, feeddemon and other products. There is a natural tendency to view NewsGator Online in comparison to Bloglines, as the products are both very popular and similar in many ways.

Company: NewsGator

Founded: 2003. Acquired Feeddemon in May 2005.

What is it?

This profile reviews only NewsGator’s online product. NewsGator has a number of other popular products, including an Outlook product and the products offered by Feeddemon (recently acquired by NewsGator).

We will probably profile NewsGator’s other products soon. They’ve recently changed their pricing structure, and based on its complexity (and user feedback), we suspect things may be further simplified over time. Today, Nick Bradbury (Feeddemon founder) further changed pricing for his product.

The reason we like the Online edition is that it is not tied to a single computer. You can log in from anywhere. Also, Bloglines is the gold standard of web-based RSS readers, and it is natural to compare and contrast the two services (see our Blogines profile here)

Key Features of NewsGator Online:

- easy import of feeds opml file
- two pane interface - clippings, folders and feeds on the left, content on the right (similar to bloglines)
- alphabetizes feeds
- can view all feeds, or just feeds with new content
- fast updating
- great “clipping” tool to save content with one click
- sorting options includ by date, view older/newer first
- nascent search abilities

NewsGator v. Bloglines:

Bloglines has recently had significant delays in updating feeds - often updating only once a week. That means content comes infrequently and is stale - just the opposite of the core reason for using an RSS reader. Their site is also down quite often (who’s seen the infamous Bloglines Plumber recently?) They are the largest RSS reader (other than Yahoo) (Bloglines accounts for about 30% of Techcrunch subscriptions, NewsGator is a close second), but these problems are leading many users to try out other services.

However, even with its shortcoming, we find that NewsGator Online is not as good as Bloglines (but it’s close).

To test NewsGator, we imported our Bloglines feeds and used it exclusively for a few days. Importing was easy, thanks to the Bloglines export feature and the NewsGator import feature. Snafus are noted below.

Things NewsGator does better than Bloglines:

1. Feeds are updated much more frequently on NewsGator (a very, very important feature).

2. While both services have a “clippings” feature, we found NewsGator’s to be much easier to use - one click. Also, the clippings folder is added to the main directory on the left pane, whereas bloglines has an additional tab to click to view clipped items.

3. If you want a PC or Mac based desktop client, you have the ability to sync feeds with that client so you don’t read the same content twice (Bloglines doesn’t offer a desktop service).

4. NewsGator was never down during our testing period. Bloglines is down frequently.


Things Bloglines does better than NewsGator:

1. Both have two pane interfaces, but Bloglines allows scrolling of the left pane whereas NewsGator doesn’t. This means that you can peruse feeds without losing the content in the right pane. This seems like a small issue, but we found it really annoying when using NewsGator.

2. Bloglines has a “mark all read” feature that clears out all unread content. NewsGator doesn’t have this feature, meaning we had to click on each and every one of our 250+ feeds after importing the opml file to clear out old content. This was a one-time issue, but it certainly got us off on the wrong foot with regard to our NewsGator experience.

3. Both services alphabetize feeds. However, Bloglines disregards “the” before the feedname, and we found it difficult to find the feeds we were used to reading by the name we remembered them by.

4. Bloglines shows the number of subscribers for each feed, and you can view public subscribers. NewsGator doesn’t do this.

5. Bloglines allows you to view public subscriptions of other users (and add them to your own). NewsGator doesn’t have this feature. Bloglines also has a permanent URI for each subscriber’s public feeds. As an example, here are all of my personal feeds on Bloglines.

6. Bloglines has a “keep new” feature for each post that is useful. NewsGator has no equivalent feature.

7. Bloglines has a useful but little known about email feature - you can create an email address and all emails to that address show up as a feed in bloglines. It’s very useful for subscribing to newsletter type emails that you’d rather have in your RSS reader than your email inbox.



Things Both do well:

Both have great user interfaces, options to open content in a new window or the existing window, options for folders to group feeds and good customer service (inquiries about both were answered promptly, within 24 hours even over a weekend).

Neither service has tagging of content, something Rojo (Rojo profile) has, and we’d like to see further experiments in this area.

Summary:

To be honest, we could be happy with either one. But if forced to choose, we choose Bloglines based on features available today. If the feed updating issue isn’t worked out, however, or if we see that damn bloglines plumber more than once a month, things may change quickly.

NewsGator has a good track record of responding quickly to user feedback, and most of the blogines features mentioned here could easily be added to NewsGator.

Finally, we note that with the ease of opml exports of feeds, there is no real lock-in of users, and a newcomer with fresh ideas could easily and quickly gain real market share.

NewsGator Management:

J.B. Holston – CEO and President
Greg Reinacker – CTO and Founder
A.V. “Sandy�? Hamilton – EVP Sales, Marketing and Business Development
Mark Nass – VP of Finance and Administration
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Links:

About
Press
Support
NewsGator Blog
Greg Reinacker
Brad Feld on NewsGator Pricing
Nick Bradbury (Feeddemon Founder)
RSS Compendium Blog
Don’t Back Down (“Newsgator is again going on the back burner. Just too many things that don’t work right.”)
Momathome
knowledge jolt with jack
home office voice
Azizi Jennis
Useful Sounds (slow bloglines updates)
Leonid Mamchenkov
Otherwise engaged (bloglines origins)
Fanteja
feednation (a newcomer to think about as an option, with incredible tagging and search options)

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  1. Hendrik Krauss

    > 2. Bloglines has a “mark all read� feature that clears out all unread content.
    > NewsGator doesn’t have this feature

    Sorry, but this is not correct. At the top and bottom of the content pages (next to the back / forward controls) there’s a link to mark the entire page read, i.e. 50 posts with one click.
    Moreover, you can set Newsgator to mark everything read you’ve viewed.

  2. Michael Arrington

    Hi, Thanks for the correction. I can find the “Mark items read on view” under settings but not the feature you describe. Either I’m missing it completely or it isn’t there right now.

    It sure would have saved me a lot of time after the first import.

    Mike

  3. Hendrik Krauss

    Hi, hm, that’s odd … I’m logged in to Newsgator as I write, and if I click “My feeds” or any other folder / feed, I have two links saying “Mark All Posts On This Page As Read”. One sits right below the white controls bar (that has “Add Feeds”, “Settings” and so on), the other is at the very end of the page. They’re on the left of the “Page: 1 of 42″ displays.

    Apparently, what they have is not a feature set problem but a UI problem, which is of course worse ;-)

  4. Michael Arrington

    Hendrik, if you look at the first screen shot I have in the post, can you see if the buttons are on that page? I just don’t see them.

  5. Teja

    Thanks for the link back. Very brief entry, and I especially loved how you listed pros of each service. Rojo implemented tags, so does FeedDemon. As of now, it is in alpha stage, but you can get an invite as you signup (though I signed up a while back and still no response). It seems like an exciting service, but for the moment, I think Newsgator will do just fine, lovely service it is indeed.

  6. Teja

    By the way, nice job with this blog, very insightful entries. Keep up the great work! :) Ahh god, I can’t believe I said that, I didn’t mean FeedDemon, I meant FeedLounge. Not FeedDemon.

  7. Michael Arrington

    Thank you…Yeah, we like feedlounge. I think it was our first profile or at least one of the first - http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=7.

  8. deewoo

    Why not try Bloglines.Bloglines is much better than newsgator. You can synchronize bloglines with blogbot for outlook. Folder hierarchy is synchronized between Outlook and Online via blogbot. It’s much better than newsgator between outlook and online.
    If you like desktop news client, You can use Greatnews to synchronize bloglines like newsgator using feeddemon. Good news is Greatnews is a wonderful free software but feeddemon isn’t.Folder hierarchy is synchronized between Bloglines and Greatnews. Feeddemon doesn’t synchronize Folder hierarchy between newsgator online and itself. Greatnews can be found at :http://www.curiostudio.com/
    If you like newsgator for outlook, don’t worry, blogbot does the same and better job for outlook. blogbot can be found at http://www.blogbot.com/out/.
    Even you uses several computer, you won’t read the same news twice. cause it’s synchronized online, at outlook via blogbot, at desktop by greatnews.Bloglines doesn’t offer a desktop service? That’s not true, check out Greatnews!

  9. deewoo

    Why not try Bloglines.Bloglines is much better than newsgator. You can synchronize bloglines with blogbot for outlook. Folder hierarchy is synchronized between Outlook and Online via blogbot. It’s much better than newsgator between outlook and online.
    If you like desktop news client, You can use Greatnews to synchronize bloglines like newsgator using feeddemon. Good news is Greatnews is a wonderful free software but feeddemon isn’t.Folder hierarchy is synchronized between Bloglines and Greatnews. Feeddemon doesn’t synchronize Folder hierarchy between newsgator online and itself. Greatnews can be found at :http://www.curiostudio.com/
    If you like newsgator for outlook, don’t worry, blogbot does the same and better job for outlook. blogbot can be found at http://www.blogbot.com/out/.
    Even you uses several computer, you won’t read the same news twice. cause it’s synchronized online, at outlook via blogbot, at desktop by greatnews.
    Bloglines doesn’t offer a desktop service? That’s not true, check out Greatnews!

  10. Johnt

    Great post, I use both Newsgator Online and Bloglines…I also think Feedlounge and Rojo are upcoming gems…don’t forget Web RSS Reader (light weight)

    In the way of desktop readers, haven’t used Feeddemon…Blogbridge seems to be making some noise (great features), as well as RSSBandit, Lektora seems popular (light weight)…I use SharpReader which works well.

    Can’t believe what I’m hearing, that Bloglines has a 3rd party synch client…wat to go Blogbot.

    Anyway another handy feature for Newsgator Online is that your clip folders can have RSS feeds…so people can subscribe to a clip folder (kind of like someone subscribing to a users del.icio.us tag folder).

    From their website:

    “You can expose your clippings collection as an RSS feed so others can access your clippings, if you wish…make my clippings collection feed public (clearing this option will make your clippings collection feed accessible only to you)”

    You could even make a clip blog via your Newsgator Online Tag folders….that is, run the clip folder RSS feed (if you need to splice multiple feeds use re-mixing tools) through RSS Digest, and into a blog….there you have it, a curated link or clip blog populated via Newsgator Online.